I'm a technology optimist and it's going to be an important part of the solutions, but yet on Monday, Alcoa represented industries speaking in the United Nations in the mitigation plenary, what did he say? He said, we need clear, enforced, global policies and we need fair, effective and binding international commitments. That was the message from industry on Monday because if they get that, the drive towards doing what is right will be there and they will be able to grow, they will be able to invest and they will be able to do the right thing towards clean energy, renewable energy, energy efficiency, everything that we are speaking about.
Now, when I had led the commission on environment and development back in the '80's, of course, I was focused on what can we do at home in Norway, an oil-producing country, so one important issue, which was politically difficult was we have to have a CO2 tax on the Norwegian continental shelf, on the oil industry itself. And, you know, it came as a shock to the rest of the world, especially oil-producing countries couldn't believe it was possible to undermine your own industry in this way, but did we? No, we haven't undermined it, the Norwegian oil industry and gas industry is prospering, but we have led down the reductions from the Norwegian continental shelf to one-third of the world average and to half of what is on the British and the Danish sectors.
But, you know, it has been driven by political decisions and by working with the private sector. They didn't like the CO2 tax, but they knew it was there to stay and they acted and they are today very proud of what they have achieved."