Chill Out on Dubious Dubai's First Refrigerated Beach

If they're going to cool the sand (which is a dumb idea), why don't they pump the coolant-filled tubes to the ocean water in a closed-loop system. That would keep the sand just above the water temperature, but without the excessive coolants and refrigerants.

LA: or even a water cooled heat pump, there are a few greener options.

seems like they should be able to utilize all that captured heat and use it to generate energy & hot water.

yeah.. that's what I was thinking... if you go to all the trouble of refrigerating the beach you might as well make some use of that heat:

1.) use it as a pre-heating cycle for solar thermal
2.) hot water for those myriad guests in the hotel
3.) use solar power to cycle water from a few feet below the sand's surface to the top layer. Like reverse geothermal heat... everyone knows that the top 2 inches of sand are ridiculously hot, but only a few inches down and it's nice and cool.

4.) it's dry in Dubai as well so instead of blowing refrigerated air over the people concoct a giant sand/water/hotair beach cooling / air cooling swamp cooler and take advantage of evaporative cooling.

It doesn't have to fossil fuel powered right?

"seems like they should be able to utilize all that captured heat and use it to generate energy & hot water."

Generating hot water in that environment is totally feasible, and should be done, but generating energy is a lot harder.

40-50C is low grade heat, and generally you want a bigger delta T to generate electricity from. not impossible, but not ideal situation.

@ chas

Ha ha ha haa... hey Chas, as a guy who used to live there, trust ,e they have more than enough hot water... hotter than that which is from these refrigerated beaches....

at Josh_cali

dude, first of...that method is probably greener and not quite as effective as refrigeration.. do you know how much more tubing they'd neeed to get effective "cooling"??

This is the gulf man... the future age Caribbean of the middle-east... they have ze oil to burn, so they'll burn it... till they run out (this is only Abu-Dhabi btw, Dubai has negligible reserves of oil..) when the power from oil starts dying out, then they'll go green in a jiffy and start going green like nobody's business...thats what it's about. Flash. to attract Tourism..

While they're at it, perhaps they can make a microclimate that is cold, rainy and overcast. Then they won't need to have a beach at all.

this is absolutely ridiculous. do we really have nothing better to do with our energy than air condition beaches?

And this is why OPEC is cutting Oil production. To increase cost to so that America and the rest of the world can pay for their Refirgerate beach and everything else the super rich desires in Dubai. World get a clue. Wake up! Why would people that have made their riches producing oil go green??? Come on get a clue.

This is the most absurd thing i have ever heard of. Instead of cooling sand- dont they think that money might be used for something else that is more useful. Like, world hunger, homeless, research for cancer, etc..... That much stupidity should be against the law!

Theodore - Dubai is anything but dry in the summer. Go there btween May and November. That's 110 degrees plus insane humidity.

Um, why not simply add limestone to the sand? It stops the sand from getting hot in the first place.. Ever been to Cancun people? The sand never gets hot due to the naturally occuring limetone

honestly people why would you want to recycle heat in a desert. if you honestly think that humans can kill the planet you are more egotistical than you think. the planet will be fine. explain this i had opened a cardboard box that contained "green shopping bags" it was wrapped in a excessive amount of paper. all this green talk is nothing more than a enviromental profit scheme. you probably wont even post this comment because it contradicts what you think. typical activist.

Um.. I live in "the rest of the world" and I'm not a Lemming who believes in the stupid notion of human caused climate change.. get real!

if they just filtered the water through pipes under the sand and then back into the ocean that may cool things off, plus create a nice bubbly effect in the water. also maybe they could have those tents that come with solar powered fans in them that way they could take advantage of all that sun, or they could cover the sand altogether and pimp water between two layers of floor which would keep it cool to the touch... I mean every one wants to make a buck but not at the expense of where we live...

yea, and along with much of the construction projects in dubai, they will probably be using slave labor too.

Great Like we don't give the middle east enough of our money already. Why don't you just go somewhere that you have those conditions already?,or have people gotten so lazy that they can't do that?Sounds like the people in Dubai need to find better ways to spend their money.

In 2008, you'd think they would come up with something that would be more of a win/win situation for them AND the environment...

yea, and along with much of the construction projects in dubai, they will probably be using slave labor too.

This sounds really cool! I'm currently exploring my options for honeymoon destinations and Dubai is at the top of my list. It's absolutely gorgeous. The luxury of climate control is very alluring.

the article is thin on info so i would not be surprised if the loop system was what they are planning
besides a pocket of cooler temps in a ever increasing heated world might not be a bad idea
cool ocean water under ground sounds like a great idea
i wonder if they would also be thinking of pumping the water into fountains to help cool and hydrate the air around the pool or lobby areas

All I got to say is...man they have so much money!!! Send me some!!!

They have money to spare so they should import sand from the Mexican Caribbean (Cancun) which does not get hot.

Why can't these countries who put all the $$$$$$$ they are wasting by "Cooling the sand" into helping those less fortunate !!!!

This makes me sick. Dubai is an ecological disaster. They have absolutely NO consideration for the environment and their sheer irreverence makes me wish a tsunami would hit the Gulf and claim back the sand. Who do these people think they are? And what are they trying to prove? Their elitists with their heads up their butts!

What gets me the most about this whole Dubai issue is the amount of WASTED MONEY to construct this place to begin with. Think of all the positive that could have come from those funds around the world. They are wasting valuable money on more earth-destructive projects - all in the name of appeasing to the rich. Absolutely pathetic. If I were ever to become rich, I still would never visit there. I just found out one of my fave hiphop artist loves it there, frequents there and even has some concerts there. I have boycotted the singer. It just makes me sick to my stomack all around about Dubai - theres nothing positive about that place.

Dubai - the biggest middle finger from the parasitic rich to the world ever invented. I wonder when the thousands of near slave labourers that run Dubai will realize they outnumber the 'top' people by about 1000 to 1 and decide to get some of the good stuff for themselves.

I am so ready to tell my children and grand children to short any stocks in the Dubai. One thing you'll learn in life is nothing last forever! I think Dubai sees its end is near... doing everything they can before its economy collapses!!

God I love the dubai arabs. How many times has Al Gore holed up in a fancy energy guzzling hotel while telling the rest of us that it's sinful. If I had the cash I'd be livin' the good life too.

what a sad day it is when fools are trying to figure out how to cool sand for tourists and there are people in the world dying from hunger and disease...

Guys, it's so sweet to see how you care about utelizing the captured energy "THEY DON'T CARE"

Will they put me in jail if I kiss my girlfriend in public?

Is it me, or is there something wrong with this? It absolutely amazes me that people think like this... Its no wonder that the planet has issues..

--G

Why would I want to go to a cold beach with cold water? I have been to Dubai and you go for the fun in the sun. They can build all these things hoping that people will come but I just don't see how Dubai can keep this pace of building in this economy. In any economy. I saw one building with a bank of solar panels on top. Perhaps if everyone did that....

nothing is impossible for them,,,they have the money and they can have all the technologies they need to realize this kind of project,,,

Just great more skin cancer to treat. I can't believe I was tricked into clicking a link to be led to this hippie web site. It's just sickening.

By the way, global warming was falling as white flakes here in the deep south last night.

I don't know why people even bother going to Dubai. I've been there, and it is like hell! The summer is just unbearable (from May 'til the end of October - forget it). This is just another crazy project to lure those who don't really know the country. All the technology and Engineering cannot match the unspoiled and truly beauty of the real paradises (not the artificial ones). When yo travel you want the truth, not a skyscraper just by the beach.

waste of time. just another way to cater to the rich and famous. as if we didn't do that enough already...

why not save a lot of money, avoid potential Arab/Bikini issues and not have to have fake breezes...just go to the Carribean.

Why would I want to go to a cold beach with cold water? I have been to Dubai and you go for the fun in the sun. They can build all these things hoping that people will come but I just don't see how Dubai can keep this pace of building in this economy. In any economy. I saw one building with a bank of solar panels on top. Perhaps if everyone did that....

Okay, so they can figure out how to make umpteen story towers twirl in unison and plan and build towers that have 57 swimming pools, certainly they can handle this. To cool the sand and the beach from below is a much "greener" concept than installing huge blowers that will more than likely only annoy the guests by turning up the sand, etc. Besides, with the water temps and the temps of the deeper sand, they should be able to plan and construct a "semi closed loop system" that cycles from the ocean. Not only will it not use any chemical coolants, should it "spring a leak", it would be safer all the way around! :)

You guys are all over the place. A Delta T of 10 degrees F is ideal for HVAC applications. This could be used in a similar fashion as a water source heat pump to satisfy a portion of the resorts heating needs. And yes even if you are cooling you need heat to control space temperature set points. I doubt it would generate enough heat for the hot water. And as for piping it from the sand to the ocean, how good of an idea do you think it is to heat up the water in the immediate area of the beach 8-10 degrees?

If you recycle the energy from the upper layer to the lower layer of sand you should get they desired effect but you would be limiting your delta T potential as the two layers would eventually reach a temperature balance and you would also be wasting energy that could be used as stated above. This would probably be better at harnessing solar energy than solar cells in the long run as solar cell technology is expensive and inefficient still. Sand is also not fragile, already in place and will not need to be replaced.

Many of the structures being built there while admittedly garish also implore cutting edge engineering. They may be a greener than you assume.

You should put to rest any idea of capturing some of the heat. It will take great energy to cool the sand. The energy exchange rate is horrible and the benefit is negligible so the idea of that is moot.

If Tourists are to burn Jet fuel to go to a beach destination during the summer, Dubai should not be on that list.

Of course, if they can use solar/wind derived energy to do this, then you may have something of a solution, however it still doesn't address the tons of CO2 this place will produce while being built and during its operating tenure.

Curious as to why most of the construction companies erecting these absurdities are western companies.

Dubai is a bubble all right. Wait til the real estate bubble starts poppin there.....

it is stupid when you go to the beach you are looking for heat not for cold
STUPID!!!

i don think so they should do any kind of changes....already our needs are costing so much to the environment...its never wise so play with the weather....the aftereffect is always terrifying

$5.00 a gallon gas, yeah they need refrigerated beaches. It amazes me that the people responding here are doing so scientifically. Who is going to pay for this?

ora baby ora he who lives in glass houses shouldnt throw stones.Probably a wall of water will hit that beach do to a energy inversion from the cooling or they will attract terrible sea erchants who will lay all over the beach biting and stinging the rich people.The world compensates and it also punishes the wicked!!

They have waaaaay to much money!!!!! Think about this crap when you buy your gas.

looks they have lots of money to waste. people are dying due to hunger and income drops.they are attracting whome????????????

Seems to me they should be able to use FREE and CLEAN SOLAR ENERGY to run this and any other schemes that they can dream up, so more power to them!

I can't afford to heat or cool my house, as my money goes to gas and fuel, they are cooling a beach. What is wrong with US?

Its sounds great, I hope they can pull it off. Thank God Dubai doesn’t bend to environmental mandates that have made zero difference on anything other than to drive up the cost of living and taxes on my property. Love my Hummer, My Porsche and BMW and anyone that thinks that these or Dubai's cool beach is going to destroy the world you are seriously misinformed. I never understood the environmental movement it sounds like a cult with zero perception of reality. Does anyone actually think a SMART car is safe? No but people feel guilty and they put their lives at risk so that some ELF representative doesn’t torch their Hummer. I read some of the comments on this site using solar power; utilize captured heat and the best one of all is recycling the water from the ocean to cool the sand. Why don’t you send your money to implement these ridiculous ideas? Good Luck destroying the world.

Wow. These people in Dubai are rich.
They are wasting money. Pure wastage.
They should spend this money in war affected zone of S Africa, like congo. There is no food, no water, no electricity.
Dont waste money on making sand cool so that rich people can walk on it.

Sounds pretty cool! I love to visit!

Is this the same Dubai where soon to be forner U.S. Vic President Dick Cheney is plainning on moving to after he leaves office ? And it is claimed by some that Dick owns Dubai or at lest a peace of the action ! May Be this is where the U.S. bailout money is going to build this wonderful refrigerated beach and 57 swimming pool Dubai Towers ?

Bri

Oh…….God enough playing with the nature, hope next year Dubai will not snow……… lets think about how to stop the economy crisis that will effect Dubai in near future hope it will not hit 6% as predicted after the sand is refrigerated.

its a wierd idea to do that... why dont they just pump the sea water over the sand to cool it off... lol

You are absolutely right,, its like a bubble and suddenly it will be gone and fade away. But till that time, why not enjoying its amazing stuff... and yes i believe it, the sand is going to be less hot than the usual but not so cool alright? the heat there is unbearable so it will be cool at night and dawn but not at summer noons.

Wait! Why don't we freeze all the guests first; then lay them on the beach to thaw, which will of course keep the guests cool AND cool the sand. Hmmm!! You see, it's all about thinking things through. I'll be available for comments later on today.

hey guys dont play with the environment.....

Aren't they afraid of global warming? Look at the photo, hotel, beach, they are almost at sea level.

A piece of advice to the seriously out-of-touch executives of the Palazzo Versace: buy each guest a $3 pair of rubber flip flops, form a corporate charitable foundation and use the hundreds of thousands of dollars that you would save by letting the sand be as hot and dirty as it wants to be to fund programs that lift people out of poverty.

Being a "Top Person" myself, I would definitely want to brag about how eco-friendly my vacation in New Babylon was. I can barely go outside in the summer in Vegas so perhaps a shaded canopy will suffice on the beach... it could be made of slim, elegant solar panels that are set far enough apart that unfettered sun gets through, though not so much that any burn could set in. These panels could generate the energy to cool other areas of the sand so my toesies could maintain their dignity during my dramatic entrances and exits. I also like the swamp cooler idea though I abhor the use of the word "swamp" in the same company with "luxury". Another title, perhaps?

what I don't understand is how these muslim countries are going to attract tourists when bikinis and alchol are outlawed. I much rather stay in a slum motel in Rio and see brazillian girls in thongs outside my room than stay at some posh hotel where the women where full body suits at the beach.

but that is just me... and no its not an antimuslim statement, just what I look for when I go on holiday!

iT'S THEIR MONEY AND THEIR LAND. It's too late to change the planets future. Just live with it!

you mean i cant dig on the beach?

This must be nice, I wish I can visit this place, maybe not in my lifetime.

These guys are living through a giant economic bubble. Watch out for eco-friendly cars in the near future. All these petro-dollar based economies are going to go bust and these people will be selling assets at 1/10th the current price.

Salam:

What about blankets or towels? Lay on the blanket or towel.

interesting... would be a wonder of the world.

And people why wonder gas was $4.50 a gallon...we just built a new empire overseas...indoor ski resorts, islands that they just decided to make from scratch, and now refrigerated beaches. Every time you fill your tank, just remember, you are sending your money over there one way or the other.

Soheil Abedian, I hope your design does not mess up the balance of the surrounding nature (as far as temperature goes).

What do they mean by "Top People"? Does that mean they are going to make the price so high that most people can afford to visit or vacation there for a weekend or so? That sucks! If this place is made to pamper "Top People" then why all comotion? I wouldn't even care if the place burned to the ground, with all their "Top People".

I'm not religious, but I nonetheless have to believe there is a special place in hell reserved for the hyper-priveleged, obscenely-pampered, and completely out-of-touch swine who require amenities such as this abomination of nature. May they enjoy the cool sands now!

People in the whole world are looking for ECO Ideas and here are some people looking for more luxury

DUBAI is one of the best places in world. May it wasn't but they have made!!
they know the best way to deal with there matters.:)
so you just stop giving your bored IDEAzzz:)
AFTER ALL ITS DUBAI..:)

not a bad idea but my idea should be they should install solar pannels to run all this luxury. May be people would catch on especially as an example form third world country. One day when im a billinonare i might drop by and experience at first hand.

All this talk about Going Green, is Non-Sense. Everyone quit wasting their time. Soon all the Going Green peeps will be out of a job.

Sarasota Florida's Quartz beach on Siesta key never burns your feet...Just make the beach from quartz sand and save a ton of money....What are they thinking?
I guess when you have so much money you just do stuff.
Maybe, Middle Eastern countries don't get it because they think New York City is the entire United States, they never heard of that beach..From my experiences, there is more than New York City but don't tell anyone...or terrorists will start blowing up Minnesota.

Seriously?? Do you really think this cooling system will destruct the environment? Get real, hippies.

I love the idea. I think that would be great. And think a lot of people would enjoy there stay there. But 1 thing. They did not say where it was located at. Or was this done on purpose???? What are they hiding is my question???

sounds good to me!
tell the environmentalists to mind their own business

Wow, see what the 700 billion a year in US money from oil will buy!?

Honestly, It sounds like a great idea to me! I just wonder, are they going to prohibit kids from this beach? I remember my youthful beach days being all about diggin in the sand!

well i think its a good idea maybe not for the enenvironment but it will surely make the beach there more relaxing and comfortable but it can't be to affordable it must cost alot to stay there

There is no global warming. Its a myth! One of the csoldest winters ever expected his year. People are sheep!!! There is such a thing as climate change though.....its caused by THE SUN!

I cannot believe this waste excess in times such as these! Please attempt to 'give the appearance" of being green and responsible at the very least.

For those that don't understand thermal mechanics, Your airconditioning basically takes the hot air from outside to cool your house, They're gonna need a huge compressor, probably multiple ones, and a bunch of Condensor coils, if not one big one, the only thing irresponsible about it is the energy costs to run the fans, and the compressors, (the fans are for the condensers and evaporators cause without em, the coils under the sand will freeze up...)

IT's all about temperature and pressure...

I'd just love to see it all put in... and The big switch gear needed to power something that big...

how are people this rich

As hard as it sounds, consider NOT using petrol as a fuel so they can't afford to do this. We must be responsible for the air on this planet, because we all share it. If one culture refuses to do their part, we have a human duty to not participate in giving them the commerce and resources they would use to build or maintain such a polluting city. We must decide, as immediately as we can, to use different autos that use other energy. It's that simple. Stop or die from bad air and water. It isn't easy, but it is simple. Change fuels now.

Superlux hotel for superfilthy rich guys only ! better solution: Go to europe beaches they have natural refrigeration.

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. I like my beaches hot, it is the point of a beach. Why would you want to be frigid in a bikini?

COME ON PEOPLE AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TRY AND KEEP THE EARTH FROM HEATING UP..

morons if you ask me

Anything Rachel Noble says: "BAWWWWW!"

Dubai could air condition the whole country and it would still pale in comparison with the US energy waste/consumption. Those in glass houses should not throw stones. Changing to "greener" methods will only be facilitated on an individual level. Turn off your own air conditioner before telling someone else to.

Dubai is the manifestation of excess. Much like Wall St. in the 80"s it will correct itself given enough time. Every pedulumn, no matter how widespread its arc, will come it rest. Balance.

I definitely like that ideea, but it still rest only for the top business managers, and other rich person's
unlikely the rest of the people will always desire but they'll never have the occasion.
Doubai should creeate a good base untill they have oil and I agree with that.
After that they should try to resist of the future oil crysis.
So.. Doubai, do it untill you can!

thts a stupid idea from a bunch of swines.............!!!

"Green" is a money making agenda that will prove it’s self to be as silly as the people promoting it in the near future. Do you people understand the drastic changes that this planet has gone through since its creation? Did it ever accrue to anyone that we are at the end of an Ice Age? What caused the Ice Age in the first place? Must have been extremely clean air. I prefer turning the A/C up a little more than being discovered thousands of years later in a GLACIER!!!!!If you ask me the natural change of the earths temperature is way bigger than us humans, and for us to think that there is anything that we can do about it is absurd.

Josh-Ohio

"Green" is a money making agenda that will prove it’s self to be as silly as the people promoting it in the near future. Do you people understand the drastic changes that this planet has gone through since its creation? Did it ever accrue to anyone that we are at the end of an Ice Age? What caused the Ice Age in the first place? Must have been extremely clean air. I prefer turning the A/C up a little more than being discovered thousands of years later in a GLACIER!!!!!If you ask me the natural change of the earths temperature is way bigger than us humans, and for us to think that there is anything that we can do about it is absurd.

Josh-Ohio

Why would anyone want a cool beach? I want a hot sunny beach. it's a BEACH!! Swimming! Sun!

Finally, a place that I can vacation at!

Great innovation!!!
But all that money you will put in making this could go to the poor and needy people, instead of being wasted...on a cool and new idea...I know dubai is always first in making new innovations but still, use the money on people who actually need it...and all you who read this comment might think I am being rude-think again... and when I become a heart-surgeon then I will give the poor and needy people money and food...Inshallah...I promise

U r Stupid... pumpin coolants in the ocean is litterin idiot.

Cool the sand so what... people can lay directly in 120 degree sunlight? Maybe they better try a patch first, see if slightly cooled sand does anything for people wanting the sun-facing side of their bodies to cook like an egg. Yeah, hot sand often can't even be walked on, granted. But maybe umbrellas and flip flops would be better. Alas, I'm afraid this is a ploy to lure rich people and if they could somehow turn down the sun, they wouldn't. It might attract commoners. If they could turn up the sun, so that they would need air conditioned sand, they would, so they could attract the Donald Trumps of the world who will spend more money on wining and dining, and on the novelty of a billion dollar AC system just for their toes. On the other hand, being the species that we are, I think it's "cool" that we can apply whatever the mind imagines, and sometimes that's enough reason to do it. Otherwise, heck, there may be no fun in being any different than a camel or a pig.

well, your all probably right. they don't need more hot water. oddly enough if I remember my physics they could use all that heat to cool the building.

using thermodynamics, they could utilize that heat to cool the building & the result would be to cool the fluid which would then be pumped back thru the beach to cool it off again.

I'm not a physicist so I don't understand how thermodynamics works. i do know that there is a scientist that has designed a refridgerator for use in third world countries. it uses no elecrictity and is powered by the heat of a campfire. seems like the same principals could be used here & now what seems like a frivolous idea would be a sustainable one.
*here is a link to the guy that is developing a sustainable refrigerator.
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/adam_grosser_and_his_sustainable_fridge.html

what do you think JC, would that work?

Don't be so knee-jerk reactionary or the Republicans will think you are one of them. Dubai has the cutting edge in technology and is not stupid enough to just blow this money without looking into sustainable (and therefore long-term CHEAPER) alternatives. The swamp cooler idea and recycled seawater have I'm sure been reviewed in some form or another.

All of you "treehuggers" - not namecalling, just recalling the name of this site - really ought to spend your time on REAL environmental menaces, like the use of illegal Depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq and Afghanistan. But who cares about nuclear fallout, or the use of private jets by ivory-tower "green" celebrities, when you can complain about one lousy hotel in Dubai?

I think that cooled down sand and refrigerated pools are little to much for me. I would be content with simply a few misters, a beach chair and an umbrella.

Maybe if you are ever rich, you can do all of the wonderful things you have described. If Mr. Sultan wants a refrigerated beach, he's going to get a refrigerated beach. Maybe you can ask him how to refrigerate the world so we can all stop listening to you blabberbots pontificate about global warming. It's as though none of you believe in evolution. Stuff sprouts up other stuff disappears, have I got the gyst of it? Pffft, please.

They should bail out the auto industry instead.

I love it!!! Who cares about the environment not me? Anyways it’s not like were going to live forever might as well be as comfortable as possible wile were here. And I sure don’t care what the environmentalists have to say unless they live in the forest and walk every were they are damaging the environment to I.E. for all you blogers computers need power were do they think its coming from mother nature NOPE, cars/ public transportation also taking from the environment fossil fuels, bikes need to be built some how lets face it we really cared what the tree huggers had to say we would all have to move off the planet and make it a protected reserve.

they do not care about the environment anyway. They cut down the oil production only when the price needs to go back up to sustain their opulent lifestyles. Why do they build all those luxurious places? Becouse they can! If I was to decide what to do with the auto industry when they come to me begging for tenths of bilions, I would send them to the arab world for the money, becouse the cars will burn their oil, generating more wealth. But they do not join the party unless there is a profit.

Hey, what a fantastic idea. I think I'll do the system in my backyard. I say go all out, build more on the water, do everything you can do to change the world. If those whom can afford it, good for you!
Sarcasm, for I will sit back and watch all of this destroyed by father/mother nature one day and I will laugh, cause one day, doing all that karma to the earth, the earth pays back 3 fold.
Blessed Be.
Oh yeah, remember all those well off rich people who wanted even more money and the total scam came out to be, hum, what? 50 BILLION LOST
Guess who's sitting, laughing, oh, those poor....lol poor rich people of greed.
Sabin

The grammer is sad, at best, in these comments. At a mininum, people should realize that "there" (is a place-think HERE) "their" pertains to someone else-and they're is a conjunction which means they are. Idiocracy seems real.

The people who have the money or access to people with money really aren't going to care what the minority they ARE NOT targeting think. Many of us may not spend a week end in Vegas during our lives, much less Dubai.

really? a cooled beach? As if there wasn't already and energy and water crisis starting around the world. I hope to hell that we don't bail DUBAI out next for their foolishness.

Sorry Sr but do not wish to spend my millions on this crap.

Here's the upside from planet Earth.
After they pump all the oil out from underneath the sand in the middle east, a HUGE sinkhole will open up and swallow all the greedy, idiotic inhabitants.

It's called liquefaction...much like the sand in an hourglass.

Payback is a B***h.

Serves 'em right.

to those who want to add posts to this link -

*most* of the people on this forum writing about gas prices, paying for gas while Dubai blows it all away on cooling sand, whats wrong with the arabs etc... they are all ignorant, good for absolutely NOTHING, pieces of rotting s**t. you know why?? well if you look at a map, and read up on the UAE,, you'll find that Dubai is a separate state-city. one of 7 in the country. Dubai has negligible reserves of oil. and not of very great quality. so it depends almost entirely on tourism. hence all the gimmicks.

then there's the point that the UAE as a whole is a huge donor of funds for peace missions.

there's also the point that the UAE is stating up green movements internally as well starting from buildings.

getting back to the previous posters, they have no clue of economics and politics of the area. hence they can be automatically be put into the category of head-up-their-butts hobos who'll squeal GREEN at the drop of a hat, and they think their unwiped arses are greener than the rest of the world...

I have been a resident in Dubai for about 25 years now and my father also has spent most of his life here. (good or bad but think of this)

Sid, how many Green projects are there REALLY in Dubai ?
Isn't this one of the world's hottest deserts ?
How many Solar Power plants are here ?
How many Wind Power stations are in Dubai ? (deserts can get very windy - sand storms)
How much dust do you see from construction ? (I can't remember a day since last year visibility was like it was before the construction boom).
How many GREEN buildings really are there in Dubai ?
Eevn after the completion of the so called GREEN projects planned, how many really affect the society as a whole ? (makes you think aren't these just Gimicks)
Oh! and heres a question I've asked for the last 5 years:
WHERE ARE THE HYBRID / GREEN CARS ?!
Did you know it is illeagal to import anything Hybrid or Green in Dubai ? (well maybe not officially, it would look bad, so they just never pass the paper work, I tried believe me)
If they make so much money to spend in Billions for all this construction. How much of it do they reserve for environmental programs and GREEN initiatives.

HAVE YOU SEEN THE BEACHES!!!!!

Beaches were heaven in Dubai 10 years ago. It is a total wreck now. The sand feels like rubbish under my feet.

Have you really lived in Dubai????

Well, I have been working in Dubai several time and I was really surprised, how many small and environmental friendly cars appeared the last time. A few years ago it were just SUVs and such cars, but now it slowly changes. And I do think there is a slight rise of environmental friendly way of life. And concerning the solar energy: Sid you answered the question by yourself: there are sandstorms, so it is not that easy!!! Anyway I guess it´s always easy to say you yourself are aware of environmental issues if you grew up in a country where the law forces you to do so and even pre school tall you to seperate waste...

Well, I have been working in Dubai several time and I was really surprised, how many small and environmental friendly cars appeared the last time. A few years ago it were just SUVs and such cars, but now it slowly changes. And I do think there is a slight rise of environmental friendly way of life. And concerning the solar energy: Sid you answered the question by yourself: there are sandstorms, so it is not that easy!!! Anyway I guess it´s always easy to say you yourself are aware of environmental issues if you grew up in a country where the law forces you to do so and even pre school tall you to seperate waste...