I wonder what the "adjusted price" would be on that 60k car if you consider fuel costs. Probably still kind of expensive, but considering how many BMWs and Audis and Lexuses I see, there's a big market. And with $5 gallon gas.. hmm

Hopefully the state and feds will give tax brakes as well.

You have to be either insane or deluded to set up an auto manufacturing facility in the Bay Area. Where will they get workers? I interviewed for a job in Gilroy (not exactly the most desirable spot in the Bay Area), and freaking mobile homes were out of my price range (not even joking). And that was on a good engineering salary. Somebody making $20/hour bolting cars together is going to have to live in a tent.

That was the whole point of NM- cost of living is low and there are plenty of people who need work. Of course, the problem there was a lack of complementary suppliers within 1000 miles, and distance from infrastructure. The former is still a problem with a Bay Area site. It needs to be either near Detroit or Greenville, SC, where they will have no problem poaching engineers, and the cost of living makes it possible to find the assembly labor.

Superbad is right; the bay area is the last place you'd want to manufacture cars, way too expensive!

I think when tesla starts doing the math on cost breakdowns, they will re-locate their production facility elsewhere.

60 thousand?
I'd expect that for an all electric SUV...and 40 thousand for an all electric sedan.
In any case, I'll wait til my car is paid off and then I'll try to get it converted to electric.

By my count, Tesla has now promised at least three future models and this makes the fourth.
All have had different price estimates and the technology has varied across the board, tto include aping the Chevy Volt, a technology that everyone knows tesla doesn't possess - they even had to hire ex detroit engineers to tell them how to pass Federal safety regs. Now they are in a lawsuit with Fisker, who is countersuing and tesla seems to think this a good time to promise yet another vehicle. By my count they are more than a year behind the rollout of an awfully simple plain electric battery-only sports car, the easiest design in the world - one perfected before the turn of the century by more than a dozen companies. Anyone expecting anything from Tesla other than long waits, redesigns and repricing needs to look at their history. This is one unreliable company using obsolete 1st gen li ion battery technology. What a joke.

how can we make this car even greener? get them to use waste CO2 for their MAC (Mobile Air Conditioning) instead of using HFC 134a as they do today for their models.

Check out www.R744.com, really cool website about how this technology works and which companies are using it. in essence it's all about 'turning the problem into the solution'

Luckily for people wanting to buy an EV now (not some years down the line) and those who want something affordable ZAP is a viable option. Their Xebra sedan costs about 12,000 dollars, only problem is they are getting sold rather quicker than the company can produce them.

Arthur Glen- i dont think you should count a name change as a different model. From everything Ive seen Tesla has mentioned only 2- the 2seater sportscar and a high performance 4dr sedan (formely known as 'whitestar' but something that has only existed on paper and in the designers minds). If their sportscar was so simple to produce- someone else wouldve made it a long time ago. Producing even a handful of cars with new technology throughout is a major undertaking, the fact they came out behind schedule isnt surprising,nor necessarily a reason for concern. Their 'history' is all of a 2-3 years . And their use of 'obsolete technology' as you put it....no other car manufacturer has anything even close to market with these advanced batteries. Any car company can tout what they have on the drawing board (chevy has run commercials for their volt for a year now- and its still 2 years away!), making it a reality is another thing altogether. Youre entire post reaks of trollism.

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Fuel will be the thing of the past. Electric vehicals are what will be popular. They are more convient, and more clean.

The Bay Area is the perfect place for Tesla. 15miles from the proposed Tesla site is NUMMI which puts out 1500+ cars and trucks a day. Some of our good engineers have already gone to Tesla.
Besides many people have bought their homes years ago around here when the price was under 300K.
Downtown San Jose is in the process of putting recharging stations in.

The Bay Area is the perfect place for Tesla. 15miles from the proposed Tesla site is NUMMI which puts out 1500+ cars and trucks a day. Some of our good engineers have already gone to Tesla.
Besides many people have bought their homes years ago around here when the price was under 300K.
Downtown San Jose is in the process of putting recharging stations in.