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Nissan Altima Hybrid as Taxis in New York City

by Michael Graham Richard, Gatineau, Canada on 03.24.08
Cars & Transportation (cars)

Nissan Altima hybrid New York City cab

We've been covering the Nissan Altima hybrid for a while (see the links at the end of this post), and we've also been covering the slow greening of the New York taxi fleet for a long time. So it's good to see both topics converge.

And in this case, it makes perfect sense: the Nissan Altima hybrid is rated at 35 mpg (6.7 l/100 km) in the city, versus 12-15 mpg (15.6-19.6 l/100 km) for most current taxis. According to the New York Taxi and Limousine Commission (TLC), halving the fuel costs could mean $5000 saved per year. That means that it would take about 1 year to pay back the extra cost of the hybrid drivetrain, and then a $5000 bonus each year after that (and more as oil gets more expensive). There's also savings on maintenance because regenerative braking reduces wear on brake pads.

Another benefit of the Nissan Altima hybrid is the AT-PZEV (Advanced Technology-Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle) emissions, which are as low as we can currently go with a gasoline-powered car. If enough New York cabs had emissions this low, it would surely make a difference for air quality in the city.

For those curious about the specs of the car:

  • $25,795 base
  • 2.5-liter 4-cylinder gasoline engine, 158 horsepower, 162 pound-feet of torque
  • 40 horsepower electric assist motor, 199 pound-feet of torque
  • EPA rating: 35 mpg in the city, 33 mpg on the highway
  • It is made in Tennessee

Far from perfect, but certainly better than the 19 mpg Ford Transit Connect Taxi concept...

::Nice Hybrid, if You Can Get It

See also: ::Nissan Debuts 2007 Altima Hybrid, ::Nissan Will Build Altima Hybrid in Tennessee, ::Hybrid Test Drive - 2007 Nissan Altima Hybrid, ::2007 Nissan Altima Hybrid: $24.4k Minus Tax Credit, ::Nissan Wants to Sell 50,000 Altima Hybrids a Year, ::10,000 "Black Car" Taxis to Go Hybrid in New York City

Comments (16)

Looks like Chrysler, FoMoCo & General Motors have missed yet another opportunity. I suppose they are still circling their wagons and complaining about the detrimental economic benefits of having to increase their vehicles fuel economy.

jump to top Mark says:

35 mpg isn't that impressive. I own a '99 Altima and get just over 30 mpg. How is it that this hybrid only nets a 5 mpg gain over the past 10 years? (actually, I probably got 35mpg when the car was first purchased). There's no gain in torque or horsepower. I doubt there's been significant safety features added to weigh it down.

That being said, I do love the near zero emission bit of it and the fact that it's produced domestically.

jump to top Josh V says:

Josh,

either compare EPA to EPA (make sure you compare the same version too - it has been revised), or same situation in the real world to same situation in the real world, but don't pull a number out of a hat like that.

The 4-cyl 2008 non-hybrid altima gets EPA 23/32. The hybrid is definitely an improvement in the city, where taxis operate, and the emissions are lower.

jump to top James says:

This is still incredibly unimpressive. A modern Toyota RAV4 running on diesel gets 7.2l/100km on the urban cycle. VERY nearly as economical - AND it's an SUV and NOT a hybrid... 35mpg is absolutely RUBBISH!

jump to top ecobore [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

And why oh why does it need a 2.5l petrol engine for running around in town!!! There are seven seater smaller petrol engined vehicles in the EU that get much better urban mileage than this. A hybrid should give a significantly improved mileage to justify it's extra cost and extra consumption of raw materials. Sure, the lower emissions at low speeds are a big advantage, but it is not enough! This does NOT crack it!

jump to top ecobore [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

Except that the diesel is a lot dirtier in emissions..

I've also always wondered if from one barrel of oil you can make as many gallons of diesel as gasoline. Diesel has a higher energy content, but if it is simply more "concentrated" oil, the actual benefits could be much smaller...

jump to top James says:

"And why oh why does it need a 2.5l petrol engine for running around in town!!! There are seven seater smaller petrol engined vehicles in the EU that get much better urban mileage than this."

Join the club of those who wish that there was a market in the US for European cars. It might be starting to change, but until recently, gas was so cheap in the US that almost nobody wanted these cars...

jump to top James says:

I think what we must remember is that this replaces V8 stretch Crown Vics that get about 10 mpg in the real world.

sure it would be great to see 60 mpg taxis in NYC, but could one of you tell me of an available car model that would fit taxi reqs? Something that is sold in North-America?

The Altima hybrid, Camry hybrid, Escape hybrid, and Prius are all we have right now.. Hopefully that'll change soon.

I know I certainly wouldn't want tens of thousands of diesel taxis in manhattan, at leat not until there are SULEV and AT-PZEV diesels...

jump to top Anonymous says:

Something else to keep in mind: extra weight for taxi package.

Taxi packages mean much beefier suspension, amongst other things. Just like police cruiser packages. So the taxi Altima hybrid will definitely weight a good amount more than the normal consumer version.

jump to top Willy Bio says:

The entire Winnipeg Canada (pop.: 800 000) taxi fleet (at least 3 different companies) has been Toyota Prius since about 2004.

Yes, they work.

jump to top anonymous says:

Please!!!! These are city taxis. No luggage required. They can use 4 doors Honda Fits; pay $15K and get the same mileage.

jump to top Buceri says:

They already use ford escape hybrids as taxis, which are SUVs and still get ~30 mpg. This isn't the first, and almost certainly not last hybrid taxi that'll be out there.

Hybrids seem to be getting a faster adoption in busses than taxis. Pretty cool developments.

jump to top Dan A says:

"Looks like Chrysler, FoMoCo & General Motors have missed yet another opportunity."

No one has made a "taxi" for the US since Checker. Nissan did not manufacture a Altima Hybrid Taxi. Someone just bought an Altima Hybrid and added the yellow paint job and requisite taxi equipment. The Crown Vics taxis are mostly "Special Service" package cars designed for police, and actually many taxis are used police cars. They are popular as taxis because they have a large back seat and trunk and the Special Service package and truck-like powertrain make them very durable.

That said, GM and Chrysler haven't been used for taxis anywhere that I know of for some time, so they're not missing anything, and Ford Escape Hybrids have been used for taxis for a while now, and the Ford Fusion hybrid (about the size of the Altima) is said to be due out this year, so it would appear that they aren't likely to lose anything either.

GM have a few mild hybrids that could be used as taxis and will be phasing in their full hybrid systems in mid-size sedans and small SUV's over the next few years.

Chrysler will be doing well to survive the next few years, so they have more to worry about than taxis. I think Daimler management intended to address efficiency of Chrysler products with Daimler's diesel engines, but now that they have sold-off Chrylser, they have left Cerberus without much to offer with either diesel or hybrid or even a compact car.

And if you think that Nissan are forward thinking compared to domestics, when Nissan announced that they were going to make the Altima hybrid, their CEO, who is not know for being bashful, said that hybrids "make a good story" but were too expensive to take seriously.

jump to top gl says:

"These are city taxis. No luggage required."

City taxis also take people to and from airports and train stations - some with a lot of luggage.

jump to top gl says:

Modern diesels with particulate filters are very acceptable for cities, (in as much as ANY polluting vehicle is acceptable.) I think that European vendors are simply scared to approach the US market again, but I am sure that US buyers are more than ready to buy a legion of Fiats and Renaults!

jump to top ecobore [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

Ecobore:

They don't sell European diesels in the US because the US diesel emissions regulations are higher--they would'nt be allowed to.

jump to top Dan A says:

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