Hummer H2 Reaches End of the Road: Will be Terminated

by Michael Graham Richard, Ottawa, Canada on 03.11.08
Cars & Transportation

Hummer H2 accident

Last year, we reported on a rumor that GM was thinking about killing the Hummer H2 (after killing the Hummer H1 two yeas ago). It seems like that rumor is now being confirmed: HummerGuy.net has been informed by official sources that there will be no "next generation" refresh on the H2 and that within a few years - not fast enough for some of us - it will finally fade to black ("Reports have the H2’s end of production between 2011 and 2014").

If history is any indication (our post about Ford killing the 19-foot Excursion had 74 comments), we will hear from people who claim to have legitimate uses for the H2. It's possible that they do, but we're not talking about them individually; What we rejoice about is the death of a symbol for GM.

There's no doubt in our minds that the vehicle that a car company picks as its iconic product has an impact on both the company itself (how it targets advertising, what the other models are like, what ideas it will reject as not fitting with a certain image, etc) and on what customers of that company expect, since the whole point of a halo product is to put a little of its DNA in the more affordable models.

Chevy Volt plug-in hybrid

GM seems to be trying to make the Chevy Volt its new halo car. We hope they are serious about it, because it's certainly better to aim for a fun to drive, very efficient plug-in series hybrid than a military-style gas guzzler that will mostly be driven in urban centers.

Update: We've learned that the original source for this story was Jalopnik, so here's some link love. They've published a correction and apparently the end will be 2014 rather than 2011. Too bad.

::HUMMER H2 Days are Numbered, via ::Hummer H2 Eats It: To Be Gone by 2011 or 2014

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Comments (68)

I was totally happy when I heard this on Jalopnik.com yesterday. Most of the Jalops were happy too. These are car people that while they like V8's, RWD and cool cars in general see the H2 for was it is, a stupuid ego booster. Jeremy Clarkson, no friend to the environmental movement, has it on the very uncool side of his cool vehicle wall because it's for posers.

Bad news is, over on Jalopnik a follow up report was that the refresh is a go and the H2 will be around until 2014. Oh well they only sold 12K of them last year so the Prius' handly offset them.

jump to top Tim Russell says:

I think it's excellent news!

jump to top Anonymous says:

As far as GM's icon car goes, one advantage that the H2 has over the Volt is that it actually exists.

jump to top Spike says:

"As far as GM's icon car goes, one advantage that the H2 has over the Volt is that it actually exists. "

That's the problem, isn't it? Almost anything would have been better for GM.

jump to top Anonymous says:

I'm glad. One down, a couple dozen to go.

Most cars in my area are full size trucks. A couple bling H2's cruise around, but they are dwarfed by the Toyota Tundra and Ford Super Doodie. I wish people would stop using them for trips to the coffee shop.

jump to top Anonymous says:

Da*n that H2 is jacked up in the photo. How late was that soccer mom in getting her fat kids to McDonnalds anyways?

jump to top Dallas says:

Legitimate uses for the H2? Total BOLLUX!

The H2 is a total POS for real off-roading. Stock Landcruisers or Range Rovers, regardless of their plush accoutrements, are the most capable off the shelf, off-road vehicles available. No self-respecting 4x4 enthusiast or rock crawler would touch an H2 with a 50 foot winch cable. Nobody who actually needs to drive off pavement consistently would even allow you to utter the name "H2" (or H3 for that matter).

Only the H1 had any utility to it.

jump to top Willy Bio says:

Well according to NPR; California drivers are actually using less fuel than last year.
I switched from Toyota Camry getting 25mpg to a Scion Xa getting 35mpg.
This is good that as prices go up demand is going down.
A friend of mine owns a used car lot and he has said he has been having a very very hard time in the past 2 years selling used cars that get less than 20mpg (such as SUV's, and sports cars) and that cars that get less than 15mpg are simply next to impossible to sell (ie: Hummer 1, Hummer 2)

jump to top 1013DS says:

People can come up with "legitimate reasons" for all kind of horrible things. You just gotta look past their bogus reasoning to see the true effects of their actions, what actually matters.

jump to top scavenger says:

Hummers in general just make me mad. The only situation in which I see a hummer and don't just want to yell at the driver to buy something less heinous is when it's a military issue and is being used as such.

Ding Dong the H2 is Dead!

jump to top Emily says:

This silly vehicle has no redeeming value and should be scrapped before 2014. Before you know it, you'll see them parked in yards acting as storage bins and planters. Never should have been rolled out.

jump to top John R [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

I'm not sure who said, but it rings true in this situation:

People can find evil in anyone, no matter how good they are.

(Vice versa works, too)

jump to top Ross says:

But then what are we going to do to amuse ourselves over at FUH2.com?

jump to top spence says:

Why would GM cancel the Hummer if, as Bob Lutz says, global warming is a crock?

jump to top Icelander says:

Bad choice of graphic to use.

I'd be willing to be that someone was seriously hurt in that crash and you all use it for celebrating the end of the H2.

Shame on you Treehugger.

--
ed: That has nothing to do with it. Posting photos of hurt people would be bad taste, but just crashed cars? You're projecting.

jump to top Frank says:

I drive an H2 SUT, only put 19k miles on it in 3 years - but I'm fairly certain thats not the norm. I try to walk and ride my bike if I can.. and because I drive a hummer, I put forth more effort. What im saying is - I sacrifice to drive the car I like. Not all Hummer owners are evil.

jump to top Anonymous says:

but i NEED my hummer. i live in rural soandso and am unable to move. i read treehugger and say i care about saving the planet, but it would be too difficult to move somewhere closer to civilization because i was in a war once and really hate people and would try to hurt people in a city. i don't belong in a nuthouse though, just my ranch. leave my hummer alone. my right to own it trumps your right to breathe. i mean, i run bio-diesel in it, yeah, and i recycle sometimes, yeah. i NEED my hummer. you don't understand because you ride a bike and live in the city.

^-^

:^)

jump to top Johnny says:

"Why would GM cancel the Hummer if, as Bob Lutz says, global warming is a crock?"

If sales volume is no longer high enough for it to be profitable, just like the H1 every other vehicle that has ever been discontinued. Hummer have been showing some concepts of new vehicles that appear to be based on the smaller H3. I think GM intends to keep the Hummer brand around but will downsize it as market dictates.

Don't look to far into what vehicle manufacturers choose to build or discontinue. They aren't paid to make political statements, just to sell vehicles for profit. They build what they think will sell and discontinue what they think will eventually not. GM has made a lot of money from H2 sales, but as fuel prices increase, its sales volume will continue to fall, so it eventually won't be worth the continued investment to update.

Bob Lutz's views do not necessarliy represent those of GM. People in his position tend to speak their mind whether or not it is in line with corporate philosopy. He is well past retirement age and has lot of money, so he doesn't have to worry about whether he has a job tomorrow.

jump to top gl says:

You folks are missing the real tragedy
All the poor damaged people that were using their Hummers as an ego booster and therapy may be forced to perhaps deal with their self esteem issues and drive something else to their psychologist.

jump to top ken says:

They Chevy Volt is just vapor ware. No point in salivating over a concept car that will never see the light of day. As far as the Hummer H2 is concerned, do you honestly believe that GM is going to cancel the H2? Somehow this one doesn't pass the smell test.

jump to top omega.proteus [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

They Chevy Volt is just vapor ware. No point in salivating over a concept car that will never see the light of day. As far as the Hummer H2 is concerned, do you honestly believe that GM is going to cancel the H2? Somehow this one doesn't pass the smell test.

jump to top omega.proteus [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

Well I for one LOVE my H2.
As a matter of fact it's my second one.
The first was an H2 SUT.
You know why I bought one?
BECAUSE I CAN!!!!
Isn't that what America stands for.
Stop being a bunch of hypocrits.If you could afford it you would probably have one too.

jump to top FRANK RAMOS says:

"If you could afford it you would probably have one too. "

Hmmm, no.

Stop projecting.

jump to top Anonymous says:

You know why I bought one? BECAUSE I CAN!!!! Isn't that what America stands for?

Frank,
Either your comment (above) is an attempt at ironic black humor or you're depressing me! No, I sure hope this is NOT what America stands for. Seems like our founding fathers and a good number of today's Americans think the country stands for a personal freedom way deeper than shallow consumerism, hedonism and excessive wealth. Perhaps something like free thought and critical thinking? Or maybe I'm just over-reacting to my trip to the Middle East last week . . . .

jump to top kjmcolorado says:

But Frank, as I have pointed out, the H2 is a poor excuse for a "utility" vehicle. It has none in the traditional sense, even though its entire image is based on supposedly having it in excess. See, you've been duped. You bought it thinking that if you had to do some off roading, or go off road in an emergency, your H2 would be more than capable. It is not.

How do I know? As un TH as this might sound, I was an avid rock crawler with an old Toyota FJ-45 in my youth. I know more about off-road vehicles than anybody who visits this site. The H2 is, in fact, an absolute and total scam. It is almost beautiful in its purity. And it makes me laugh at the Darwinism in action when people purchase them.

Although, with about $30Gs in upgrades, the H2 can be made into a semi-capable off road vehicle. But a VW Golf can be made into an off road Rally car with that kind of dough too.

jump to top Willy Bio says:

Horray! It's about time. I'm sick of the argument that these huge vehicles are "safer." If everyone had smaller cars stocked with safety features, we wouldn't have to worry about an H2 slamming into our Prius.

jump to top Matthew Snodgrass says:

It is unfortunate that there is so much hatred for an SUV. It would be nice if we could all focus on what we, personally, can do better for the environment rather than beating people up who drive a particular vehicle.

I will go ahead and start the obvious:
1. A person commuting 5 miles to work in an H2 is pumping out less carbon than someone commuting 25 miles to work in a Prius. What you drive is just one factor of your carbon output, and labeling someone based solely on what they drive is absurd. (Your commuting distance to work is more of an indicator of your 'green' credentials than what you drive on that commute.)

2. Car and Driver has done numerous tests that show that the H2 has serious off-road credentials. That may not be a reason to make them to many of us, but if someone is buying a vehicle for off-roading, we are not saving much carbon by forcing them to buy a Jeep instead.

3. Regardless of whether we think someone should buy an H2, or whether GM should make them, what is important is we avoid passing judgment and focus on what we, individually, can do to reduce our own carbon footprint. I get frustrated hearing arguments that 'why should I do anything when Al Gore lives in that huge carbon pumping house', because what individuals do is their choice. What WE do is OUR choice, and that is what will make the difference.

jump to top Monty says:

Hey Frank....I can afford a Lambo but fortunately I don't have a self esteem problem and I also care for the environment. Besides, all H2's are is a suburban with a different body...overpriced crap and they're definitely not a luxury vehicle...regardless of what you think. Don't blame everyone else for your shortcomings. Get some therapy pal.

jump to top Jody says:

Monty, Monty, Monty,

Did you miss my posts? Car & Driver? Are you kidding? That rag is a shill for any company willing to buy big ad space. They know nothing about what vehicles have "serious off-road credentials".

Oh, wait, they were comparing it to off the shelf Jeeps or Lincoln Navigators? Uh, ok. Since none of them qualifies as anything close to a real off road capable vehicle, maybe the H2 is top of that heap. Tell you what, I'll drive across Morocco in a stock, loaded, Toyota Landcruiser. You take the H2. Let's see who has to follow the golden rule of "STAY WITH THE VEHICLE". (you probably have no idea what that is in reference to).

I swear, 'murcans are so dopey when it comes to anything automotive. You lot consider the Corvette to be a serious super car contender. You lot consider the H2 or Jeep Commander to be a serious off road contender. You lot think that 50mpg from an over-designed Prius is a serious efficient car. No wonder your society and economy is collapsing as we speak.

jump to top Willy Bio says:

Hummers are a joke...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YacG9PkGtI

jump to top David says:

HAHAHA! LOL!

A YouTube is worth a thousand pictures. :D

Yep, the H2 or H3 are specifically for the infantilized deficients who, unfortunately, make up a large percentage of the chronologically adult population.

Hey kid, here's your Big Wheel. It'll cost you $45K and since you're an "adult", its also the perfect size!

So, any H2 or H3 owners still reading this thread, skulk away back into the shadows, in utter shame. :D

jump to top Willy Bio says:

That picture is a perfect choice for this article, proving just how useless the hummer is. How amazing that the pick-up truck has almost the same amount of damage as the hummer (if in fact those are the only cars involved in the accident). It looks huge and imposing and impossible to dent. I guess looks aren't everything!!!

jump to top Lulu says:

Lulu, the only difference is the person in the truck was probably hurt more since the H2 is a (gas guzzling) tank! Think about someone in a civic getting hit by that thing! Not good!

I'm happy to see them go, it's about time!!

jump to top Jody says:

What is "green" anyway?

Today, March 20, the ACEEE's list identifies vehicles that are "kind" to the environment. The good news is that even the meanest cars on the ACEEE's list are still very kind to Mother Nature. According to Kevin Cullen, General Motor's Technical Fellow on Environmental Initiatives, even the dirtiest vehicles on the mean list emit 98.8% fewer hydrocarbons and 95% fewer nitrogen oxides than the average car in 1967.

1) Get ride of every pre 67 car off the road worldwide.

2) Bugatti Veyron,

3) Volkswagon Toureg,

4) Mercedes 320 GL,

5) Jeep Grand Cherokee (your better four wheel drive ride know more than anyone on the board?

6) Mercedes R320 Wagon,

7) Lamborghini Murcielago,

8) Mercedes-Benz ML320 V6, Mercedes-Benz G55,

9) Hummer H2, but Clean diesel and E85 (ethanol) powered engines are coming soon. Don’t use mine for 4 wheeling but for pulling 8000l lbs,seat 7, what can can’t be matched for small size in a garage and towing capacity? Plus I only put 10K a year on the vehicle, so its all relative, then since the price of gas hit $4,00 off the dealer has a $6500 rebate or 0% financing. I put the $6500 towards Green Peace! Nice leather, best lumbar support, seat heaters for the first two rows, a back up camera, great stereo, greater warranty, largest dealer in the United States one mile from my house. In addition, that rear camera keeps me from hitting your lawn mower (which is one of the nations worst polluters in the world). Also the platform is from GM as many vehicles in the world platform share. To say its the same vehicle as a Tahoe, shows your total lack of engineering education, suspension, struts, shocks, transmission, engine, gear ratio's, wheel base, width all give you a completely different riding vehicle. A 30K Caddy CTS and a 60K CTS have the same platform (as does a Saab), all have completely different driving capacities though, that are left to the consumer to meet a need, if the need is not met, the vehicle will not sell.

10) Chevy Yukon, Suburban, but again clean diesel and E85 (which puts more fertilizer pollutants in the water and burns more energy to create will save you.

Remember all you tree huggers with electric cars, the electricity comes from burning coal, one of the worst polluters in the United States. There is no free lunch, then what are you going to do with all that lead in those batteries in landfills?

Go pick another cause, volunteer at a homeless shelter, visit a nursing home, getting on someone’s car choice is just weak.

Remember, the United States is great, lets all drive a Prius, I own Toyota stock, but there is the rest of the world (if any of you people get out of your own little world, city or state) and see vehicles with no emissions testing, and many with average age cars over 30 years, plus chemicals dumped in water, lead paint, etc that have been banned here since the seventies, you would get off some cat just driving a Hummer. They are driving cars, trucks, heavy diesel machinery and flying planes that will never ever catch up to U.S. standards of 1995 in the next 40 years.

Also remember, Cattle farts is your number one producer of CO2 emissions.

So let me spend my money where I want, and for the jerk that knows “more than anyone else on this board”, yes your four wheeling is a waste of gas, but if you enjoy it, do it, its your free time, you earned it, but when anyone proclaims they know more than anyone on a board I laugh my ass off.

Engineer, Boeing, St. Louis Missouri, been putting out fighter jets and now drones that one single unit will put out more waste than many rural states in a year, Just buy want you want, take up something you can have an effect, the U.S. is not the World.

jump to top Steve Brady says:

Holy crap, Steve, you're so totally off base it scares me.

Let's first pick your ignorance out:

"the electricity comes from burning coal"

Hey dummy, ever hear of the Hoover damn? Ever hear about all 'dem wind turbines in TX? Ever heard about all 'dem solar panels in the southwest? Heck, ever hear of all 'dem nukes? I guess not.

"then what are you going to do with all that lead in those batteries in landfills?"

Hey dummy, its totally, 100%, completely recycled. That is, if you're using lead acid. Since no mass produced EVs that are in the pipeline for the US use lead acid, I guess they'll do nothing with the lead that DOES NOT EXIST.

"Also remember, Cattle farts is your number one producer of CO2 emissions. "

Hey dummy, its METHANE, not C02. Dope.

"yes your four wheeling is a waste of gas"

Hey dummy, did you not see where I typed "in my youth"? As in PAST TENSE? The main reason I no longer indulge is because I learned how destructive that particular recreation activity was. See, I LEARNED. You seem to be grasping for rationalizations to continue to own your H2 and avoid LEARNING.

As for your #9 and how it perfectly correlates to my hyperbolic statement that "I know more than anyone here about off-roading", well, you just proved that I certainly know more than you. How? Well, dopey, if you have to ask that...

Let freedom reign!


jump to top Anonymous says:

Holy crap, Steve, you're so totally off base it scares me.

Let's first pick your ignorance out:

"the electricity comes from burning coal"

Hey dummy, ever hear of the Hoover damn? Ever hear about all 'dem wind turbines in TX? Ever heard about all 'dem solar panels in the southwest? Heck, ever hear of all 'dem nukes? I guess not.

"then what are you going to do with all that lead in those batteries in landfills?"

Hey dummy, its totally, 100%, completely recycled. That is, if you're using lead acid. Since no mass produced EVs that are in the pipeline for the US use lead acid, I guess they'll do nothing with the lead that DOES NOT EXIST.

"Also remember, Cattle farts is your number one producer of CO2 emissions. "

Hey dummy, its METHANE, not C02. Dope.

"yes your four wheeling is a waste of gas"

Hey dummy, did you not see where I typed "in my youth"? As in PAST TENSE? The main reason I no longer indulge is because I learned how destructive that particular recreation activity was. See, I LEARNED. You seem to be grasping for rationalizations to continue to own your H2 and avoid LEARNING.

As for your #9 and how it perfectly correlates to my hyperbolic statement that "I know more than anyone here about off-roading", well, you just proved that I certainly know more than you. How? Well, dopey, if you have to ask that...

Let freedom reign!


jump to top Willy Bio says:

ALL YOU TREEHUGGERS CAN GO F***K A TREE. WHAT I DRIVE IS MY BUSINESS AND YOU CAN ALL GO SCREW YOURSELVES AND YOUR F**KING PRIUSES. YOU F**KING PEOPLE ARE ALL BRAINWASHED. OK, YOU THINK THAT GETTING LARGER VEHICLES OFF THE ROAD WILL SOLVE ANYTHING.... THINK AGAIN RETARDS. YOU PEOPLE JUST LIKE TO BITCH AND COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING. EVEN IF EVERY VEHICLE ON THIS PLANET IS ELECTRIC, YOU WILL STILL FIND SOMETHING TO BITCH ABOUT. GO F**K YOURSELF - ALL OF YOU! AND AL GORE AND JOHN EDWARDS - BUNCH OF HIPROCRITS!

LA: we edit for swear words. A shame sometimes, really.

jump to top ZEP says:

I don't own a H2, but I do own a h3. If I had the disposable income, I would have bought an H2 instead. I work 1 mile from where I live and put less than 10K mile a year on it. To conserve, I think maybe we need to limit the amount of miles a person can drive. Or lets ban the sale of houses larger than 2500 square feet. Just think of the electricity savings alone, not to mention the forests. Personal water crafts.... burn them all. Summer homes.. Ha! Auto racing, hmmmmn how much fuel is wasted? Ah what the heck shut it down. Come on people, get a life. I'm all for conserving vital resourse, but lets not pick on a minow when there are larger fishes out there! How many of you are living in houses larger than what you need? How much energy is used to heat and cool them? How many miles do you drive per year? If everyone would just worry about themselfs and how they conserve and not judge others, life would be a better place. How about some good role models. It's always easer to pull people then push them.

jump to top RAndy says:

Wow, it's very interesting to read all this. Let me offer a balanced perspective.

I try hard to be conscious about the environment. I recycle. I use reusable bags when I grocery shop. I try to buy local, organic items whenever possible. I shop at thrift stores, and on ebay rather than buy new about a third of the time to help reduce what ends up in landfills. I am a member of freecycle. I use non-petroleum based products when I can and try to buy plant based cleaning products whenever possible. I own a 1,200 sqft. house that is well insulated and I offset my oil use with wood. But, I also am an SUV owner.

What I find incredible is that when I drove a Jeep or a Dodge, no one hated me for my 15-18mpg fuel consumption. They appreciated the steps I took to make a difference. Now that I own a 17mpg Hummer H2, I am all of the sudden evil. I've had people say, what happened to your "greenness"?.

If find that a little unsettling. I'm not evil. I am a good person. I'm not a retard, and I'm not ignorant. I've considered hybrid vehicles, but they aren't 4-wheel drive, which I prefer in the country, they're not very good a climbing the long hills in my area, and they don't have room for the three dogs I rescued.

Please remember that living in the city and driving a hybrid isn't the only way to be green. There are other ways to make a difference. And just because one chooses to drive a Hummer doesn't mean that they need therapy, should be a victim of an accident or darwinism, or be belittled. You don't know they're story any more than I know yours.

jump to top Stacy Green says:

Wow, it's very interesting to read all this. Let me offer a balanced perspective.

I try hard to be conscious about the environment. I recycle. I use reusable bags when I grocery shop. I try to buy local, organic items whenever possible. I shop at thrift stores, and on ebay rather than buy new about a third of the time to help reduce what ends up in landfills. I am a member of freecycle. I use non-petroleum based products when I can and try to buy plant based cleaning products whenever possible. I own a 1,200 sqft. house that is well insulated and I offset my oil use with wood. But, I also am an SUV owner.

What I find incredible is that when I drove a Jeep or a Dodge, no one hated me for my 15-18mpg fuel consumption. They appreciated the steps I took to make a difference. Now that I own a 17mpg Hummer H2, I am all of the sudden evil. I've had people say, what happened to your "greenness"?.

If find that a little unsettling. I'm not evil. I am a good person. I'm not a retard, and I'm not ignorant. I've considered hybrid vehicles, but they aren't 4-wheel drive, which I prefer in the country, they're not very good a climbing the long hills in my area, and they don't have room for the three dogs I rescued.

Please remember that living in the city and driving a hybrid isn't the only way to be green. There are other ways to make a difference. And just because one chooses to drive a Hummer doesn't mean that they need therapy, should be a victim of an accident or darwinism, or be belittled. You don't know they're story any more than I know yours.

jump to top Stacy Green says:

Crud! I was just re-reading my post. I own an H3, not an H2. I looked at an H2 but it was bigger than I needed and only got about 8mpg and I wasn't comfortable with that. Sorry if I riled anyone with my typo.

jump to top Stacy Green says:

("the electricity comes from burning coal"
Hey dummy, ever hear of the Hoover damn? Ever hear about all 'dem wind turbines in TX? Ever heard about all 'dem solar panels in the southwest? Heck, ever hear of all 'dem nukes? I guess not.)

Here are some facts about power....

Coal burning generates 55% of the electricity in the U.S. Nuclear power currently provides 22% of electricity generated in the U.S. About 10% of electricity currently comes from natural gas.

Hydropower provides about 7% of the electricity generated in the U.S. This statistic is from 2006 but the percentage is unlikely to increase, both because few sites remain for the construction of large dams, and because of general opposition on environmental grounds to building new dams.

Wind and solar power count for about 2% of the electricity produced in the U.S. This is because they haven't become very efficient yet. However, they do have a lot of potential and with new technology they are gaining in efficiency.

There are a few other sources of power, like geothermal and biomass that make up the rest but don't really produce enough to list.

And just so you know...it does cost a lot more to produce electricity from fossil fuels for electric cars than it does just to burn a gallon of gas. But this really only applies to completely electric cars. Hybrid vehicles charge their batteries while driving so you don't have to go plug in to some "refuel station" for your electric vehicle. Although you can't just buy a hybrid and think it's going to save you gas. It's how you drive that makes the biggest difference. If you buy a prius and drive aggresively then you might as well buy a toyota corolla. You won't save any money...in fact it'll cost you money in the long run because of how much more you paid for the hybrid.

There are SUV's like the new hybrid tahoe's and GMC yukon's that are great. The technology is really quite advanced.

As far as offroading goes hummers do pretty well. If you're getting into the real serious stuff of course you have to have something that weighs less and has been modded to handle the terrain. Don't hate on the hummer because it can't do everything.

My last SUV was a 99 Range Rover HSE and it was a monster offroad. I personally don't think the H2 or H3 can compete without a few aftermarket upgrades but the Land Rover company is known for making the best offroad vehicles out there. They're also a heck of a lot more expensive brand new.

Either way, how many people really take their hummers or range rovers offroading? I would be willing to bet at least 80% of drivers don't. It's about freedom of choice. I can choose to drive and H2 or H3 if I want. I am planning on buying an H3 or new 4 door jeep. I like the looks (even if the H3 is slower than the Toyota FJ). I'm a GM guy and I appreciate the Hummer brand. I would hook either of them up with a little lift and a few things though. I love the outdoors...mountain biking, love dirt bikes, boating, skiing every weekend in the winter. And I want to be able to drive the vehicle I want that does what I want it to do. I don't want the government limiting my choice.

It's not anyone's place to tell me what I can and can't buy. Especially the government. It's not their place to tell motor companies what they should build and how many miles per gallon the vehicles should get. This is a free country....and i'm sure gas prices will take care of the waste anyway.

If you want to drive your prius that's fine. I don't b*tch about how sh*tty hybrid drivers drive. Or about how stuck up hybrid attitudes really just make you people look like b*tches (not all hybrid drivers are like this but I have found many are).

I'm not saying I agree that people who don't drive offroad...have 2 kids....and live in the city should be wasteful and buy Hummers. But that's their choice. I don't think we should take that away from them. If I had a ton of money I would buy and H1 to go have fun with once in a while. I wouldn't be extremely wasteful and drive it to work every day. Freedom is becoming less free every day in many ways. Soon I may not be able to own a handgun to defend myself while criminals can get them either way. What my neighbor drives isn't that big of a deal. Look at what's going on in the world....

jump to top James says:

It is dissappointing that my first car (Datsun 280ZX) built in 1981 got slightly better gas mileage than my 2005 Mitsu Galant. When I bought that car in 1989 I thought we would be getting 100 miles per gallon by now. I think the rising gas price will cause people to demand innovation. During the late 70s through early 80s a lot of crappy cars were made attempting to meet emissions, but they figured it out by the mid 80s.

I can afford an H2 and want to buy one, but the gas mileage is holding me back. It won't be driven very much, but with gas prices nearing $4 I probably won't buy one. A good friend has one and loves it. We have been offroading in many vehicles and the H2 does just fine.

As for the person, who is obviously an arrogant european, that thinks his country makes better cars or choices regarding cars, I just wonder when your country of origin will be begging us to save you again or if you are from that country whose butt we kicked twice?

When innovation is a must we step up to the plate. Where would China and Japan be if we had not shown them the path?

Americans love kewl cars and the H2 is damn kewl.

jump to top Ryan says:

So many of you suggest therapy, yet seem so angry I wonder if you don't need it yourself.

What someone else drives is an odd focus of such hostility, there are far better things to do with your time and effort. Anger like that is bad for your body and not harming hummer drivers in any way.

jump to top Sarah says:

I have a H2 because I can afford one and I like its unique style. Anyone who doesn't like it has a right to their opinion, but don't talk to me about the Ozone layer or any of that BS. A single plane trip puts more pollution out than my Hummer will in 200K miles! And those of you who say its not a true 4x4 get real. Nobody who buys a brand new 4x4 takes it out and destroys it on a trail, that includes land rover, ford, chevy ect.. Thats a hobby for old rebuilt toys. About the most offroad any nice 4x4 is going to get is during adverse weather. Anyone else who owns an H2 will agree with this post!

jump to top steve says:

Thats good news. Those cars have too big carbon dioxside emission. Does anyone know how much is it?

In europe when you go to carshop, all vehicles have their carbon dioxide values on their technical data. People are buying those cars which have the lowest. Nobody buys cars with old engines which pollute a lot and have high consumption of petrol.

I think most big Us cars have pretty old technology and big engines. That is going to be a big problem with us car manufacturers since the oil price is going up all the time. And also when Us will start doing something to enviromental issues.

jump to top John says:

Its amazing at the comments here. Lets set the record straight. If you drive like you have sense the H2 will get 14.5 city/county driving and 16 mpg on the highway. This is better than alot of other suvs and a little less than most…18-20 mpg. At 12,000 miles a year thats a difference of 100 gallons a year. Your not talking about 10 % difference in most suvs,and maybe 25% difference in most cars. i save gas by dring a hummer h2 over 2 cars. The liberals spewing hogwash are the ones driving up gas prices not suvs. Crude Oil is a rotting technology that in 50 to 100 yrs will be irrelivant while we have 300 yrs of oil under us now.Gas prices are high due to two things, lack of refinerys expanding and usa not drilling our on. Oil companies are always going to try to push prices higher, be that we use 20 million gallons a day or 10 million, just look at diesel. You wont to get prices down? Call your liberal congressman and tell him that you , thats right you are gods,oz,karma greatest creation and the carabu can live among a pipe line for 50 to 100 yrs.

jump to top ncnative says:

that should have ben one of those shitty little Prius or smart car
h2 is safer then both and better for the environment in the long run then that Prius Because of the battery's that it contains

jump to top Bobby says:

This forum cracks me up - I have never seen a group of people more excited about coming up with a reason why they are better than someone else. I don't care what you do or don't drive but the H2 is shorter than most regular cab 1/2 ton pickups (I say most, but I haven't found one shorter, but I can't say for sure that they don't exist) and it is only a couple of inches wider. It gets about the same fuel economy (usually within a few MPG because it is full time four wheel drive on the admittedly inefficient 6.0L) as most comparable year pickup trucks (my dodge 1500 5.9L got about 12 mpg). So, it isn't really a hulking beast, it just looks that way because it is rectangular and not tapered with increasing height. The point I'm making isn't that the H2 is great, it's just that it is comparable to most other large vehicles on the road, so what's all the excitement about, relatively speaking? Have you looked into the fuel economy of the corvette, the larger BMWs? Mercedes? Why aren't you all seething with holier-than-thou hatred of all these other vehicles from high on your mountain? Tell ya what, if I sell my gas guzzling POS pickup truck, does that make you guys that own cars the a-holes?

jump to top Kevin says:

HA I love my H2 sut....its amazing to drive...i love my bmw x5 as well...and my car. The point is i drive my car most of the time, but its nice to have a rad suv for the winter storms or when i feel the desire to go off-roading...i put on about 4000 kms a year on my H2, thats nothing bad on the environment.

So when its discontinued, it wont suck, but it wont make a difference either. And for you ppl that say you'll be safer in your lil cars from our Hummers. I guess you'll just have to worry about normal trucks, one tonnes, semi trailers, motorhomes, box vans...etc...etc....etc. (which by the way, are all the same if not worse on fuel than a hummer)...or even drunk drivers, old drivers, young new drivers...Christ a motorbike could kill you if it hit your driver side door perfectly.

As for every comment i read on here...the ones that are hating on Hummers are just that...HATERS. And nothing else. People have a choice on everything, and you shouldn't chastise one another for what type of vehicle they chose....there are thousands of brands and models of every type of product you can imagine.
Chill out everyone and focus on your own efforts to make this world a better place.

jump to top Jason says:

I realize people have their own choices about cars, but, in my opinion, the H2 is an extremely gimmicky vehicle that does not function near as well as its counterparts. It is simply a showpiece whose owners like to brag about its power and 4x4 drivetrain yet not want to put a speck of dirt on it :P

And I completely agree with Jason here. Let's put the differences aside, admit that we humans have been selfish and overconfident, and start solving the many problems that plague us.

jump to top Ken Clive says:

A hybrid car is no answer to a Hummer. Study's have shown that this big gas gusling hummer suposably you all frown apon is far greater for the enviroment than a hybrid. Now before you jump to conclusions there is a point behind this. Now to make a hybrid car you need nickle batteries. so the nickle is mined in canada. which is half of canadas co2 output. and then it is shipped by a large ship which uses lots and lots of oil to europe where it is refined and leaves toxic gases *deadly to humans* in the air and poluting once more. then its of to a battery plant in china where they make the batteries then of to japan to be fitted in a car. and then getting shiped all over the world. Now just to make one hybrid car think of all the pollution and co2 it has just caused to be built. Far Far more than a hummer does in production and far far more than a hummer polluts in its lifetime. although the hybrid batteries are only meant to last 25 yrs so your better of buying a hummer than a bloody Hybrid

jump to top Justin says:

"Study's have shown that this big gas gusling hummer suposably you all frown apon is far greater for the enviroment than a hybrid."

These BS studies have been completely debunked.

jump to top Anonymous says:

Whatever happend to our "freedoms" in this country? Apparently if it were up to you tree-hugging hippies the only vehicles that would be allowed for our choices would be about 5 hybrids. Sounds more like the former Soviet Union than the United States.

Just because someone chooses to buy and drive and H2 doesn't make them a bad person. It's freedom of expression along with the ability to afford one. Don't be jealous haters just because the only thing you can afford is a Prius.

BTW, what is your issue with the H2? There are plenty of vehicles out that are of comparable size if not bigger. Why don't you constantly whine about them instead.

jump to top Ryan says:

its good car no one do this in that car

jump to top mostafa says:

Hummers are awsome, go hug some tress if you dont like them.

jump to top Ricky Bobby says:

I am personaly leading a crusade to have the Ford Excursion brought back into production.I even want GM to keep manufacturing the H2 and I hate GM. This treehuggin` hippie b.s. is for the birds folks. Stop worrin` about what people buy with THIER money and focus on somthin` like better education for the youth or the job issue in the U.S. I drive a diesel 4X4 Ford Excursion and love it to death and no I`m not a G.O.P republican with oil ties. Keep your pie in the sky dreams of these econo sh*# boxes takin` over in your heads.

jump to top the excursion says:

Funny how a site called treehugger points its finger at a specific make and model vehicle. Aren't all vehicles polluting? Don't electric cars get electricity from an outlet which is just energy converted from fossil fuels?

You guys can keep your small vehicles and die in car wrecks b/c you want to be "green" in a tiny **** box. If you want to be truly green, get off the computer, and walk everywhere, stop buying anything and live in a cave.Where is the cut off for "green" anyways? Even that bike you own took fossil fuel consumption at one point to produce. I would rather stay safe and not get rear ended by another truck and end up in the hospital. I like to see your small fuel efficient cars in a flood. Good luck not ruining your engine.

Interesting how everyone is just to excited about a failed American product. If you call yourself an American citizen, you might wanna think about why you bought that import Prius instead of buying from an American company.

H2 is just another SUV and I doubt the small number of them has any impact on the environment vs the number of compact cars on our roads every day.


If you guys really wanna stop some serious fossil fuel consumption, lets stop NASCAR. Driving in circles 200 times? Now that's a waste of fuel. I never hear any "treehugger" bring up this point.

Btw, I'm all for environmentally friendly products, but I won't put my life in jeopardy so a few people who whine about a non-existent problem.

For the idiot who points out the use of the Hoover Dam, lets be honest, not EVERYONE lives on the west coast. I only have access to coal or nuclear power. Not my choice. The Hoover Dam is great, but it's not a reason to put other's down. I guess all of NY city full of wasteful self-centered polluters, right?

You hippies are as scary as the religious right or ultra conservatives in general. Maybe we should worry about the state of our economy or how many wars we get into. I bet you those wars waste much more fuel and lives for that matter, than my H2. And I voted for Obama, so don't label me conservative.

jump to top We have bigger things to worry about says:

Wow, the Hummer driver above is REALLY trying hard to rationalize his/her gas-guzzler.. Sad to seem him/her squirm like that,really.

jump to top Anonymous says:

Cars and Trucks can and do express who we are, this is part of being an American. It is sad that we are criticized on even what we drive. If I can afford the fuel for it and you can't don't be jealous. Our H1 is a collectors item, I will never get rid of it no matter what the comments are.

jump to top Don says:

What I find very funny, is that most people who hate Hummers.......have never even been in one. We have a 2007 H2 and a 1993 Wrangler. Both vehicles are great at 4-wheeling. The H2 is wider, so it can't do certain trails, however the one's it can do........it has no problems.

Prior to owning an H2, we 4-wheeled a Denali. We had so many problems with that truck. It was always leaking fluids and we damn near blew the engine and transmission. So, please have a little info. about something before you put your 2 cents out there..

As far as gas.......ours got 11 off the lot. We upgraded the exhaust and did an air intake and it now gets 16 mpg. This is better than any other SUV, we have ever owned, with the exception of the Jeep. (2003 - Denali, 2000 - Navigator, 1993 - Landcruiser, 1994 - Pathfinder, 1992 - Suburban)

The point being, is that every older SUV gets ways less than a new H2. So, why are you guys bashing these drivers? Because you really have no clue about SUV's....


People do buy these trucks for a reason.........and it is not just about someone's penis. I have seen more women drive these than men.......including myself. And before you say some kind of crap that I am an overweight soccer mom.......I am 5'4, 115 pounds, blonde, successful business owner, who is happily married. If I want to drive a H2.......I will!!

jump to top Hummer2007 says:

One more thing.......

To all the tree huggers.....Why you do bash me, when I am driving the H2, but NEVER when I drive the Dodge Charger SRT8?


The H2 gets 16 mpg and the Charger 9 mpg. Now, the Charger is going to get even less when we put Hetters on it. I am guessing about 7 mpg.

Now, this is way less.........but everyone loves the Charger. Go figure...........it cracks me up, because people really have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to cars / SUV's and mpg's.


I am waiting.....please respond, I can't wait to hear what your thoughts are.

jump to top Hummer2007 says:

From the article: "If history is any indication (our post about Ford killing the 19-foot Excursion had 74 comments), we will hear from people who claim to have legitimate uses for the H2."

So, what gives you the right or authority to define "legitimate?"

If I want one as a doorstop, that is my buisiness and not for you to pass judgement on whether or not such is a legitimate use or not.

I have one as a replacement for my Explorer. Why I picked a Hummer is not up for review or approval.

jump to top CK says:

I see none of your Green cars or hybrids associated with red cross or the fire dept, police dept or in fact our military really i rarely see hybrids and when i do i dont care I do not go gaga over them , so rationalize this if you so called gas savers cars are so great why are they not used where they are needed....why do you not represent in real life instead of of stupid ass forums your buying into what dream, yours or some other persons dream people drive what they want not what some else thinks they should drive you have a choice as person i could care less what you think i drive ...did your parents care what got them from point A to point B? NO do i care what you drive No, so why must you post hatred for a U.S produced hummer...mind your own and i will mind mine.....

jump to top Blake says:

why?!?
I REALLY LUV THE HUMMER H2 ITS THE BEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD! (LOL) BUT I REALLY LUV THE H2 BECAUSE ITS BIG FOR A GIRL LIKE ME AND BELIEVE ME IN A FEW MORE YEARS I REALLY WANT TO HAVE IT FOR A GOING TO COLLEGE PRESENT SO I CAN PUT ON MY LICENSE PLATE I BOUGHT TO RESEMBLE IM AN INDEPENDENT GIRL!!!!!!!


(P.S. YOU THINK THEY CAN PUT ABOUT 4 ON HOLD FOR ME UNTIL I GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.PLEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

jump to top lee says:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/1/28/1233143619754/Gallery-Gas-guzzlers-Pari-006.jpg I wish I was rich enough to buy a Hummer. This lady looks so pretty standing by hers.

jump to top Paul Cross says:

I THINK ALL YOU PEOPLE WHO DONT LIKE THE H2-H3- HUMMERS ARE SO SLOW CUZ DIS CAR IZ A BEAST EVEN IF IT IS HUGE DATS NONE OF YALLS BIZ WAT WE DRIVE AND WAT WE BUY BECAUSE ITS OUR MONEY AND EVEN THOUGH YALL QOUTE-QOUTE- TYRNNA SAVE THE PLANET GOD'S GONNA DO WAT EVA HE FEELS IZ RIGHT 4 THIS WORLD

SO BACK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jump to top lee says:

Well. Looks like Hummer isn't getting terminated. Close call! I'm so happy I'll continue to see these vehicles driving around town. Looks like you might have to update your "treehugger" website.

Best,

John

jump to top John says:

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