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The Economist on Ultracaps and Tribrids

by Lloyd Alter, Toronto on 02. 3.08
Science & Technology (alternative energy)

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The Economist does a good summary of ultracapacitors, saying "A new version of an old idea is threatening the battery industry." It first covers the XH-150 "Tribrid" covered in TreeHugger here, and then continues:

Eventually, the so-called ultracapacitors on which the XH-150 is based may supplant rather than merely supplement a car's batteries. And if that happens, a lot of other batteries may be for the chop, too. For it is possible that the long and expensive search for a better battery to power the brave, new, emission-free electrical world has been following the wrong trail."

They then provide a technical explanation of the difference between batteries and capacitors, noting that:

The whole process of ion movement and chemical reaction [in batteries] is slower than the movement of electrons in a capacitor. Hence the different advantages of the two storage systems: capacitors give speed; batteries, endurance.

They then give a tip of the hat to our old friends at EEStor, "a Texan firm that has developed a capacitor it claims can store “very high” levels of energy using a special insulator called barium titanate rather than an electrolyte. Its “Electrical Energy Storage Units” will go into production later this year."

Or so they say. ::Economist

Read also:

EEStor Capacitors- "This could change everything" :

EEStor Ultra Capacitors: The Science Explained

EEstor Update: People Are Losing Faith

EEStor + Skunk Works = Big News

Comments (5)

it all boils down to: how much more capacity does these new capacitors hold versus other capacitors? 10%? 30% Even 100% won't do much difference. And, at what cost?
What is needed is 1000% - or 10 times - the current capacity - at max double the current price (80% cheaper per joule stored). I don't think that is happening anytime soon.

jump to top bulgarien [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

"...I don't think that is happening anytime soon...."

actually it has already happened:

http://www.estarfuturecorp.com/infinity01slt1.html

jump to top Rob_ [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

@Rob the solar tile salesperson

NessCap makes an excellent product, yet your response is misleading. Solar tiles are a bit different than traction applications.

jump to top jcwinnie says:

Price isn't nearly as important as energy density. Why do I say price isn't a factor? Because capacitors can be cycled 100,000+ times, which means that they have extremely long lives.

For example:

-Assume an EESU with a range of 100 miles
-Assume a 100,000 cycle life span
-Total life (in miles)= 10,000,000 miles, or longer than the life of the vehicle (or people for that matter)

Corporations could build such devices and "rent" them out to the consumer.

jump to top GreenPlease says:

I noticed the website www.ultracapacitors.org.. does anyone know the exact pros and cons of ultracapacitors and batteries? I would love to see a spreadsheet or graph describing the differences.

thanks. JJ

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