Tinfoil hat time: US based oil and car companies, eager to protect markets for SUV's and MegaMonster Trucks, convince Pentagon project mgrs to specify ultra capacitors so the supply chain gets locked away from pubic view.

Any new battery technology is going to need thorough testing, and who better than our military? At least they can't sue.

Well this certainly ruins my day.

The solution to the worlds battery problems has been bought out by the US War machine. I guess the rest of the world might be able to get their hands on it in about 20-40 years.

Fine - Good for EEStor and the US military for making more efficient warfighters. I'm glad for you. But this exclusivity does not help out the rest of the world with the efficient, clean energy needs of today.

If the US is going to comeback from this recession and become what it once was, we need to take the opportunity of developing new technologies such as these and selling this domestically and to the rest of the world.

We should GIVE this technology to developing countries so that they can avoid the type of polution that we created during the Industrial Revolution.

This kind of product can save our economy, improve our report with other nations, and save us from Global Warming. But no. They sell it to the highest bidder and lock it away in a closet so that others won't know about it.

If this were plans for a nuclear device, I would understand this. But in this case, I do not. I'm truly disgusted.

@David Bunyard

lol.

The agreement is for military and homeland security applications. So, I do not thing the prevents automakers from using the technology.

The agreement is for military and home land security applications. So, I think automakers can still use the technology.

Why are we all complaining about this? Most likely then this technology is not economically feasible at all - and if it is not, which one of us consumers is likely going ti buy it?
The buyer of this - the US military - is known and famous for squandering billions on worthless, un-proven technology as well as astronomically figures for marginally better technology such as stealth figher airplanes at 1.8 billion USD - per airplane...
Even if this technology actually works as well as advertisied (which it most likely doesn't) then who cares...really? The main problem is still producing electricity at economically feasible prices - and, wind turbines today or within max 5 years will be cheaper at making electricity - per kilowatt - than even coal.
And no government or group of companies can prevent that.
So, "the marketplace" will take care of this problem which is already solved.

day ruined, wake up. I wonder how much energy is collectively wasted by mentalities such as yours. read some rand.

This could be a world changing product. While I might not be thrilled with the military getting their hands on any part of it, I am thrilled that it appears to be a genuine product and not vapor.

If they deliver even close to what they've said in patents solar/wind and any other alternative energy source is instantly cost effective.

I put up my first solar system in 1984 and it's still running strong. The only drawback to the system is energy storage.

I say with absolute certainty that if I could get a storage system that had 53kwh with less than 2% loss, fast recharge/discharge and a cycle life long enough that it's not worth tracking all for less than $5,000 I could go off the grid with no loss in comfort whatsoever.

I know the average use in the U.S. is higher than most roof systems, but that doesn't include lower draw appliances that could be developed that are still as good but not deemed cost effective for grid use.

Folks. calm down. The US military, NASA and the US Gov have invented and bank rolled many technologies for their own purposes that have revolutionized the world. Velcro, TCP/IP that makes the Internet possible was developed for battle field to HQ communication, Solar Panels were bankrolled for satellites these are just off the top of my head. This is good news. while war and the military industrial complex may be evil from many points of view, it doesn't change the fact that this will help this company get to economies of scale and work out real world bugs. Our tax dollars get flushed down the million dollar toilet all the time, might has well have them go towards something like this.

Getting Lockheed and the military involved suggests to me that a Patent Secrecy order has been or will be applied to this technology. This will be added to the 6,000 other patents that have a secrecy order applied. Once the Secrecy order is applied it will only be used by the Military if not just black shelved. Perhaps NESARA will be able to release some of the many revolutionary energy producing and storage devices locked up by Patent Secrecy orders.

Wow, lots of people here that seem a wee bit biased against the military. Just to point out some of the things they have done for us that are loved the rest of the time:

Computers: we wouldn't have these if not for military code breakers, so if its got a integrated circuit in it anywhere thank Arpa and Darpa investment dollars.

Automated Flight Controls: The reason aircraft are so much more comfortable than they were in the 70's and 80's, automated controls deal with turbulence better than human operators.

Industrial robots: the sensors and logic were initially used for defense manufacturing projects before being adopted by the auto industry.

Anything space based.

GPS

Cell Phones

The inter-web-way-tunnel-pipes thing. (sorry if you don't get this reference)

Solar Cells (back to spacecraft)

And a crap load of other basic science research and products you'd never think about (like super glue, originally intended as a battlefield wound closure) that has helped us in countless ways. And before you get all huffy and try to point out how this or that was developed at some university, not in a military lab, you might want to look at where the majority of that money comes from: Darpa, US Army Research, US Air Force Space Command, etc.

Don't get me wrong, the military often funds things that don't work out, so I have no real opinion yet on where this particular contract will go, but we should be thankful that the military funds so much basic science research in this country because despite all the failures it has provided a number of true gems as well. And no one else is stepping up to fund those types of projects.

From a scientists standpoint the military is actually alot easier to work with than many corporate funders exactly because of there willingness to fund so much stuff without an obvious payoff. Corporations cancel research projects that wont be profitable fast enough, regardless of the long term potential, the military has a much longer term viewpoint to research.

I agree with you bakaman, but just the same, if you look at your own list there's a number of those inventions that didn't see the light of day for years.

GPS is the one I'm most familiar with and they kept that a secret for a good ten years and then when they did release it they built in error in the first coding for defense purposes.

What I worry about is the military getting their batteries for years before they have any commercial contracts.

Even when commercial gets their ands on them it might not to the most good. If this is as good as they say then everyone will want one. Everything from tools to laptops will stand in line, and they pay more because they'll buy a smaller unit.

Where's the last two applications to get one? I'd say EV's and energy storage for solar/wind and such. That's where these babies will change the world.

If it's true at all that is.

when lionel liebman program manager for misseles and fire control at lockheed martin was askedDo their caps hold 10x the energy at 1/10th the weight of a lead acid battery? his answer was YES END OF STORY EESTOR HAS THIS TECHNOLOGY--- NO MORE DEPENDENCE ON FORIGHN OIL TY EESTOR if you didnt read the whole article zen motors has the right to put these units in their autos

If this stuff works (and I cannot see any technical reason why it should not) and can be produced economically, then it really doesn't matter if it is covered by a US military patent, as there will still be a leak. Geeks talk to geeks at the end of the day, so as soon as it is proven technology China will soon after start rolling their own, leaving the US to decide whether to allow commercial development, or lose out economically.

Also, it is highly unlikely that this is the only way to make ultra-caps, so even without a leak we will see them sooner or later.

Hopefully common-sense will prevail on this one, though I'd expect idiocy to have a really good first go, as usual.

Folks. calm down. The US military, NASA and the US Gov have invented and bank rolled many technologies for their own purposes that have revolutionized the world. Velcro, TCP/IP that makes the Internet possible was developed for battle field to HQ communication, Solar Panels were bankrolled for satellites these are just off the top of my head. This is good news. while war and the military industrial complex may be evil from many points of view, it doesn't change the fact that this will help this company get to economies of scale and work out real world bugs. Our tax dollars get flushed down the million dollar toilet all the time, might has well have them go towards something like this

There are many doubters about eestors ability to produce this battery with the specifications they have announced ...it would be world changing for sure
I would love to buy a plug in hybrid based on this battery and recharged with electricity produced by possibly a new solar cell technology announced by SUNRGI which supposedly will produce solar power for $.05 per kwh
wholesale and also run on ethanol (possibly produced by a new process announced by COSKATA who claims they will be able to produce ethanol for $1.00 a gallon....
What a dream.....sometimes dreams come true......

True, most new technology goes to the military first, and then filters out.
Unless you count the vapor carborator used on WW II U.S. tanks in Africa. (See Rommel's memoirs and eye-witness reports from the tank crews)
Also, the over-unity amplifier discovered during the development of the Minuteman missille.
105% efficient... (U.S. Patent No. 3,815,030)
Some things never quite make it out to the general population.
And now the good news, if the U.S. won't open it up, China, Russia, India, Japan or some guy in a basement somewhere WILL.

Can you imagine EESTOR giving away rights to Lockheed for nothing? I don't think so.

The delays are troubling. I have been in several venture funded startups. The VCs aren't always aware of what is really going on behind the scenes. In two of the startups that I was a part of- the management lied or withheld vital information from the VCs. In one startup all but one of the founders were fired.

What confuses me is the small amount of funding I have heard about for EESTOR. A battery powered car startup recently got $200 million in funding.

Something is fishy. It doesn’t make sense. If EESTOR were successful it would be a trillion dollar business.

OK: The BIG 3 are going belly up so why have they NOT JUMPED on this product. How many shares of auto industry stock do the OIL companies hold?