I am outraged by this ad campaign. It is so off the mark it almost appears to be a joke.

Does anyonoe have any ideas how we can stop this?

How about neither?

I own a few jackets and coats, not one is fur, fake or otherwise and somehow manage not to freeze to death every winter.

Naturally PeTA is once again just making up statistics to defend petro-clothing.

I see very little difference between fur harvested from sustainable sources, and...any other natural product harvested from sustainable sources, like wood or food.

I don't know about fur farms, but if we can get material for food, clothing, and shelter from the same well-managed woodlots, then that sounds like a pretty good model for most of what we're talking about here at treehugger.

I'm not defending the fur industry as it exists today, but I don't see fur as automatically unTreehugger. I think we should keep an open mind about using fur as we move towards a sustainable culture.

Wow. I didn't think anyone sould top the coal industry. This is getting sickly entertaining.

You don't have to buy new furs OR synthetic furs made from dangerous chemicals. Here is a faux fur jacket made from organic cotton, which is much better since it is cruelty free, renewable, and non-polluting. It is from Loyale Clothing.

Or you could just buy a vintage fur jacket, since it already exists anyway, no new animals are killed by you buying it, and no toxic chemicals are used either. Although I would like to point out that wearing ANY type of alternative fur; vintage, synthetic, cotton, or otherwise, pretty much still equally perpetuates the fashionable image of fur and further encourages other women to keep buying the real stuff.

This is beyond disgiusting and if anyone agrees with this they are missing the fundamental part of being a treehugger, PROTECT NATURE! this includes animals.

Also consider that fur coats are kept in cold storage all summer to keep them from deteriorating. That must take a lot of energy.

Don't believe me? Google "fur coats cold storage"

This is beyond disgiusting and if anyone agrees with this they are missing the fundamental part of being a treehugger, PROTECT NATURE! this includes animals.

Farm raised animals are not part of "nature" in the sense you're using it. Being an environmentalist doesn't mean never taking something from the planet. It just means not taking more than it can supply.

This article misses the point and as usual PETA's publicity machine relies on the 'bambification' of nature rather than the reality.

Nature is VERY harsh, in the wild all animals eventually meet a painful end that would be distressing to watch. Starvation or being eaten alive can never be a pleasant way to go. Sadly they are the likely outcome for the vast majority of wild creatures.

Many aspects of the way SOME humans treat animals are indefensible, to claim that hunting is the same as intensive farming is to wilfully distort the facts, an act which negates the case for better treatment of animals.

I have had two interesting interactions on this subject in the last couple of weeks.
A vegetarian told me that she wished more meat eaters would be honest enough to hunt and kill their own food. I felt she had a point, she didn't want to kill her own food, her choice - but she was honest enough to let other people make the choice for themselves. She was confident that when faced with the reality of the killing and processing of the animal, it would convert meat eaters to her cause.

My meat eating archery coach told me she didn't agree with hunting, i replied that i don't agree with not hunting.
thanks for reading
The Suburban Bushwacker

Quote from Anonymous: "Being an environmentalist doesn't mean never taking something from the planet. It just means not taking more than it can supply."

I agree, but don't forget being sustainable is taking things the earth can supply FOREVER, so most farming we do here in the developed world doesn't qualify

I was curious when I first read this article, so I actually went on the website and got informed on the issue. I tried to keep an open mind, since like everybody else in here, I was always taught that fur is a killing business in the name of fashion (thanks to Peta and their provocative ads).
Did anybody here actually went on the site before commenting on it, or we just all decided in advance that we are accepting NO arguments what so ever? I mean, it is our responsability to get informed on both sides of the story (because I personnally refuse to accept Peta's arguments without questioning them!).
I'm saying this because I'm so sick of people just accepting the "don't kill the cute animals" argument. I personnally enjoy my leather coat and boots and a good ribsteak once in a while...

This seems to be one of those discussions where the discussion will involve those who think that nature is everything but us and we are evil, and those who think that we are part of nature and need to use it to survive.

I am part of the second group, however, there is a difference between using and abusing nature.

Animals kill and eat each other in rather unpleasant ways; we do not have to do it this way. If you are willing to pay more all animals can be treated better. We have brains and can choose the best methods. Harvesting more than can be regrown with organic methods is short-sighted, polluting, and dumb.

Buying fur as a fashion statement is disrespectful since your purchase will be unfashionable much before your coat breaks down. Unless it is made badly, which makes it worse.

Additionally, much fur clothing is not designed to take advantage of the insulating properties of fur. The fur needs to go on the inside, but that is not seen as pretty.

And of course almost any thick fur works. It does not have to be mink, fox, or whatever. Sheep fur will already be a big improvement to plastic clothing that just wastes resources, energy, and may be rather unhealthy.

Clothing made from natural materials, harvested in the most humane fashion, transformed in ways that result in functional, strong, long-lasting clothing or products, that are actually used for a long time, makes more environmental sense than fur for fashion or multi-plastic never-to-be-used-for-anything-else-ever-again clothing.

Let us look a bit further than just protecting cute animals from horrible humans. We are part of the natural world. Without it we will die. Using it is natural and necessary. We can choose better ways, but we cannot disconnect from nature. Unfortunately (re)connecting is difficult for some "environmentalists".

Karsten
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http://www.polluteless.com
Practical Advice to Pollute Less

Why are so few people recognizing the fact that these are thinking, feeling creatures here and not resources or commodities to be harvested? Would we wear our dogs or cats?if not, we have no business wearing them. There is no difference between a mink and a cat in their ability to feel pain; the real difference lies only in how we feel about them.

Its obvious anyone who advocates and endorses fur in any way, has never been to a fur farm and has no idea the extreme cruelty inflicted on these animals in fur farms. Anal electrocution, drowning, beatings - and much more, all this for a totally unnecessary clothing product. It is appalling and unethical.

As a society we should be moving away from any activity which exploits humans, non-humans or the planet. Until we prioritise sentient beings and the environment and respect all life and our planet, we will never know peace and ultimately we will destroy ourselves. At this point, the planet would heave a sign of relieve if human animals became extinct, except we are taking every other sentient being with us.

If you want to know what is the BEST personal action to save the planet. Its not changing lightbulbs, or driving a Prius, it is not wearing the suffering drenched fur of a dead animal. GO VEGAN for peace, for yourself, for all sentient beings and the environment.

If no one would use animals (for food clothing ect..) we would not be protecting the environement. A well manadged use is needed of course . I think that the Canadian governement has done a good job on this. Since the discovery of Canada our natural resources has not disminished. Trappers, hunters and fishermans are probably the most eco-consciencious people who has the biggest interest in environement protection. Of course a Filet Mignon looks alot better wrapped at the super market compare to the slaughterhouse. Reality is reality, and I personally don't think that a butcher is a bad person nor a farmer who grows vegetables.

Formaldehyde is green? that's what furs are lined with- formaldehyde! It's a known carcinogen for pete's sake, not to mention the hydrocarbons that are used in de-greasing stage of process, and more chemicals in the finishing stage. simply put,
if harsh chemicals were not used in making fur, then fur would smell like what it is, DEAD carcasses! absolutely nothing green about furs, oh, and what about the dead animals that were skinned alive, their carcasses end up in our water, further evidence that fur is NOT even remotely green!!!!

IS THIS SO-CALLED "CAMPAIGN" A SICK JOKE??? "Fur is Green"??? The clubbing of baby seals and the SKINNING ALIVE of raccoons and others is GREEN??? Whomever came up with this campaign is SICK, and whomever agreed to it is even MORE twisted. FUR IS MURDER. If you would not skin your pet dog or cat alive and make a fur coat out of it, why would you think that doing that to ANY animal is okay. CANADA IS A VERY SICK COUNTRY WHICH I WILL NEVER VISIT, SO LONG AS THEY PROMOTE FUR AND THE CLUBBING OF SEALS, HUNTING, ETC. I actually won a free trip to Montreal two years ago, and didn't take that trip, nor did I give it to anyone else, becasue I REFUSE to visit Canada so long as you are so strong on hunting and killing animals for fur. You say, "post an intelligent and civil comment" WHILE YOU ARE PROMOTING THE MURDER OF INNOCENT ANIMALS AS BEING "GREEN"??? You really are twisted people.

My friends and I who are animal advocates have always said that fur is the most hideous abuse because it is 100% vanity and nothing else. Torture animals so that you can have THEIR fur on YOUR back? For what? Fur is the most callous, selfish, outrageously immoral abuse of animals. Whenever I see a fur, I look at the woman wearing it and just wonder, how could she? I have seen videos of how the animals are raised and inhumanely killed on fur fars. It's insanity. Someday we will look back in horror that we as a society permitted this.