Wow, pretty good price but 25mph will get you killed. I guess if you are always driving through school zones. Maybe it will allowed on walking trails

70 miles per charge might work in Detroit, Grand Rapids, or a few other smaller cities in Michigan, but the range combined with slow speed would never appeal to suburban and rural Michiganders.

Is that a golf cart? Where do you put your clubs? If you bought it Saginaw it'd take you forever to get it anywhere else at 25 mph.

Is that a golf cart?

No, it's a neighborhood electric vehicle.

Where do you put your clubs?

In the passenger seat.

If you bought it Saginaw it'd take you forever to get it anywhere else at 25 mph.

The average driving speed in America is 30 mph.

So it's still too slow to go anywhere.

So it's still too slow to go anywhere.

How fast can a bicycle go? How about a pedestrian?

If the average US driving speed is 30 MPH and this goes 25 MPH, how can't it go anywhere?

What's the normal speed limit for non-highways? 25 or 30 MPH.

Are you trapped living on a highway? Too bad for you.

To be honest, I'm not really interested in a $10,000 vehicle that I could outrun on foot.

"Yes, Yes I'm salivating over it coming to the USA." Of course I am speaking for the 'Professional 'TORT' Lawyer Politicians Union' I can hardly wait to see the crash tests against 'The Real Cars'. "Let the Games Begin" (Legal of course)

Do you think a kayak rack would fit on it?Make it more useful.To me at least.

Even if th average speed comes at around 30-35mph, the reality of many commutes is that there are high enough speeds to make this not legal for the commute.

NEV means no posted speed limits over 35mph.

My short commute is only five miles one way, but has to go on several streets with a 40mph speed limit, and you can only guess how fast people try to drive on those!!!

I may not average over 30 or 35mph, but I spend quite a bit of time sitting at red lights.

Even if th average speed comes at around 30-35mph, the reality of many commutes is that there are high enough speeds to make this not legal for the commute. NEV means no posted speed limits over 35mph. My short commute is only five miles one way, but has to go on several streets with a 40mph speed limit, and you can only guess how fast people try to drive on those!! I may not average over 30 or 35mph, but I spend quite a bit of time sitting at red lights.

Great, so it doesn't work for you and some other people. Not everyone makes the choices you do and lives how you live.

I can just see the road rage now, even a urban car should be able to do 40. Doesn't that G-Wiz do 45 or something like that. Sorry 25 is too slow.

"Great, so it doesn't work for you and some other people. Not everyone makes the choices you do and lives how you live."

You're absolutely right, most people don't live like me, on average they live further from work and drive on the highway to get there. If the streets I HAVE to take to get to work had a slower speed limit I would bike.

Moving to a neighborhood close enough to bike would get me next to boarded up drug houses.

For $10,000 I could convert a Geo Metro and have much better crash protection and speed to keep up with NORMAL traffic.

Good for you, JC. Don't buy one.

Allow me to point out that this 'green' vehicle is a chinese manufactured sweatshop special, and you can bet their manufacturing technologies, and the batteries used in this 'car' are the poorest imaginable.
This is of course leaving out the reality of crashworthyness (yes, even at 25mph), complete design ripoff (one of many in China), and environmental atrocity that is the chinese shipping industry. This is just another Chinese attempt to cash in on Americans' fickle lust du jour, which happens to be electric vehicles. Because their engineering obviously does not live up to our standards in traditional vehicles (yet) china relies on importing toys like this and selling them at real car prices.

I am willing to wager that a hyundai accent is more energy efficient using its fuel source than this car is, because chinese engineering practices simply do not even consider efficiency of electronic components. Not to mention an accent is around the same price for a far better investment that ISNT a rip-off. Not to trash on china, but people need to be concious that there is more to efficient design than powering your car with something other than gas. We get respectable energy returns on petrol, yet I would be surprised to see this vehicle return 45% of its energy input.

What's with the anonymous cowards posting?

Anyway, I agree with JC you could spend your money better. I like that things like this are coming out. It'd be more useful for a large city, not suburbia like Saginaw.

Anyway, I agree with JC you could spend your money better.

Great, don't buy one.

I am in truly in favor of small electric vehicles, but I am not in favor of buying something like this from the Chinese. Their track record for environmental concerns, trademark and patent infringement and consumer safety are turning me against what they send our way. For the benefit of Anonymous who is about to say, "great, don't buy one," there's no danger of me buying one. For a little humor, try downloading a Xebra owners manual and read all the disclaimers in it. If this is equivalent to a Xebra, it shouldn't last long on our market.

$10,000 toy is what it is. 70miles @ 25mph isn't impressive at all. If you live in upper michigan where are you going to go 25mph up to 70 miles. Hows this lightweight car going to do in a foot of michigan snow? Sounds real nice but its really not practical. The only practicality is in a city like Chicago, even so...(for the sarcastic Anonymous) if you really wanted to save money or be "green" ride the bus or take the subway. This Anonymous guy failed to post the statistic for how long the average commute to work is.(26minutes, in MI thats like 25miles "michigander speed") How long will that rechargeable battery work for 70miles? I'm sure that number is on a flat terrain with a tailwind. Think of the money you'd really save in auto insurance, recharge cost, maintenance (mmmm one dealer in michigan- im sure that wouldn't be pricey)...after all that you still have an initial investment of $10k. More like a turbo charged barbi powerwheel if you ask me. You really want to save some money on gas in the same manner (2 passengers, almost no room for a gallon of milk) buy a moped 5 of em, at least it can travel at 45mph @ 50-60mpg. As for the snow...well if you live in michigan you already know. Bottom line... While your in your $10k toy box stuck in 1/2" of snow in the hills of MI, wondering how many miles you spun your tires, or if the heat will still work after the battery is dead....I'll flick a tear for you as i drive by in my American made 4x4.

After reviewing the car specs......note that 70miles (after a 8-10hr charge) the battery is only good for 500 charges. So in prefect conditions, you'll get 35k miles until you have to drop serious coin in a new battery system. Really your better off buying a Chevy Aveo for a few grand more. You do the math...35kmiles lifetime, warranty of 2 years. OR 100k mile 5 year warranty..Unknown lifetime. At least you will have paid the car off before you had to replace the major drive system. Sound like another scam...only to disappoint the consumer thinking they will really save money.

I'll flick a tear for you as i drive by in my American made 4x4.

Treehugger sure loves accomodating anti-treehugger flamers.

Its not about whether your a treehugger or not. Fact is even if you drive a car thats electric that plugs into the wall...the power has to come from somewhere. Which means the power plant on the other end of that outlet most likely is polluting just as much as my truck for your electric car. Even nuclear power creates waste/pollution. If we really want to find an answer to becoming green we should invest and refine hydraulic hybrids for the average consumer. I would like to see in the next few years that 60mpg f-150 using simple hydraulic potential energy. This flybo doesn't answer our energy dependency. I wouldn't be surprised if Anonymous is really the guy trying to sell this waste of time.

Why can't someone create a Lithium Ion based electric car that's very small (1 or 2 seater) and can go up to 60mph? That's fast enough to go on the right lane of the highway for brief periods. Of course, range would need to be about 100 miles.

It'll be expensive, but it's certainly possible and I think there would be a market for it.

Please read article and comments below. Be careful. Consult better business and other government agencies.

Link to article

http://www.chinacartimes.com/2007/02/06/wuzheng-chinese-trucks-in-north-america/

We are going to need a complete auto insurance policy. By finding a company where you can get inexpensive auto insurance, you’ll be able to protect your property and still save at the same time.

Luckily the "UPDATE", excluded Michael Papp from this company. Seems Mr. Papp is in 'trouble' again, with his 'shady' EV dealings.:

http://tinyurl.com/6cf9f7

If this car can be updated by installing extra batteries and the correspondent electrical compones, the idea is not too bad. Running at 50-60 miles should be the goal. Also, using a solar panel system may be the solutn for charging those batteries. My house runs on solar panels and I even have extra energy for an electric car. I hope the company building this Flybo will be able to think about such improvements.

Hello. Just wanted to tell everyone that the FlyBo actually goes up to 40mph and can get anywhere from 70-150 miles per charge (depending on how you drive) And I for one think it's totally worth it.

The "green" argument for these neighborhood vehicles is always the same: It would work for 80% of the population...the average speed on surface streets is 30 MPH...etc. etc.

Totally understandable, but simply not true. The average one-way commute distance for American workers is 16 miles. After driving to and from work, you'd be pushing the range of this vehicle. The simple truth is, if it says it will get 40 miles per charge, that's the optimal high-end, driving at optimal speeds (definitely not 35 MPH, probably closer to 20-25). Unless you pop for the Lithium batteries, (at that point you might as well get a used Prius) you're looking at a rapid drop-off of range. I think it's safe to say that most people don't yet have access to opportunity charging in their daily commute.

The speed limits in America are pretty uniform, set by the "85th percentile rule" (look it up). The only thing this could drive on are residential streets. Residential streets, in other words, are back roads. "Arterial streets" have mandated speed limits of 35-45, pretty much out of this thing's (and the EEC rating's) range. I doubt too many people's commute avoids all major arteries. Furthermore, I imagine that if the average person were to adjust their lifestyle to match this vehicle and took nothing but residential streets, they would probably extend their commute 4 or 5%, which would probably put them juuuust out of this vehicle's round-trip range.

The point is, this particular vehicle and it's ilk are just not practical enough. You can get a Vectrix electric scooter that has a top end of 62 MPH and a range of 40-55 miles for about $9,000, and you can convert your existing vehicle to similar specs for about $4,000-6,000. Get over this car, it's simply not worth it.