Enertia Electric Motorcycle To Hit Stores In Early 2008

It's about time we started seeing this sort of thing, but why did they have to make it so ugly? Take that god-awful cover off it and it looks pretty good as a bare-bones.
These guys need a few lessons in motorcycle aesthetics.

Looks nice ... but for that price range, I would take a G-Wiz - may not be huge but would give you some extra carriage capacity.

$15K??? $11K??? 45 miles???

You've got to be kidding me.

mighty nice but cut that price in half so people can actually buy them....

Sounds like some good technologies at work here.

My goodness the... PRICE!!! If they get the price down by about 2/3rd's they might get some interest. Otherwise I'd rather walk.

I'm sure it's worth it but it IS expensive.
I'll wait for a vehicle that is based on mountain bike components, weighs around 75 pounds, and cost around $3000.

Sweet. If its as good as it sounds, I'm sold. I'm glad they actually put some effort into making it look good too. Usually a an electric bike/scooter/motorcycle makes you look like squad leader of the nerd patrol.

Looks like a good job on this machine but at 11k plus only Mr. Cloony will buy one.

Nice looking, but the Tesla has spoiled me, because I'm thinking this thing needs a longer range.

I love this bike but if they could manage to squeeze out a little bit more in range and top end speed...these things would sell like hotcakes.

Looks: Spot on
Range: 2/3s the way there
Speed: Needs another 15-20mph for when you have to get on the highway.

Course that might be asking a whole bunch. I don't know.

As much as I want an electric motorcycle, battery technology will always be the limiting factor to an electric vehicle - but we are certainly getting close!

For about $1500 I can get a Honda scooter with a 50cc four stroke engine that tops out at 40mph and gets 100mpg.

For $3000 I could get a Kawasaki Ninja 250cc that tops out at over 100mph and gets 60-70mpg when driven sanely.

Makes for a pretty tough sell at this price point!

I looked into converting a Ninja 250cc to electric power, and if you want highway speed, range would be severely limited, and if you want long range speed is severely limited. The laws of physics must be obeyed :(

That said, major kudos for the original ground up frame design, and the styling looks a bit retro modern and very clean.

I have found out recently that work offers FREE plugs for electric vehicles, and a coworker has a converted car! Maybe I need to join him on the parking!

this bike look beautiful.

the price may be high but its a relatively new technology. the prices will drop.

if i had the means i would love to have this.

right now we have a converted electric car from 1987 we bought for 2K and the range is less than 40 miles and we can still get around LA pretty easily.

it made me realize that we really dont need a vehicle that has a 300mile range for most of our trips it is perfect.

i think people should reconsider how far you really need to go daily. its not very far for most of us.

I live down the street from MC Electric Vehicles in Seattle, and can already get some very low-range scooters (I can't get to work and back on a charge, and I have a 15 mile commute). Those scooters, though, are $2000. This vehicle is likely about double the price point at which it'll sell in volume.

Should really start putting prices at the top of the article to see if I should even bother reading it. The price is insane.

$15K? Are they high?

Put this is the "Twike" category of ridiculously overpriced tripe.

I just bought an electric scooter this weekend. Speed isn't quite up to this one, (it tops out at around 25 to 30 MPH), but it looks a lot less fugly, has a range of 60+ miles, and only cost me $300. Only problem is I bought it in China. Why aren't people importing these and selling them for $600 or so? Seems like you could make a killing.

BTW, this is what it looks like, (although mine is all black):
http://pd.7ye.net/11/2822/722433/87799-0l.jpg

Wait why are people balking at this price, yet drool over the tesla? 15k is a lot for the range, but as everyone says 45 miles is more than enough for a days worth of driving. A typical Harley goes for 15k.

Wait why are people balking at this price, yet drool over the tesla?

I think both vehicles are silly and overpriced. Try again.

Does anyone knows the Tesla Roadster???

WOW
Love the design, but for that price the mileage range and speed should be better.

There are a lot of very affordable Electric vehicle already on the market. We have quite a few of them on our website, www.yourgreenamerica.com, and others carry them too. What they need to work on are affordable 2 seater cars.

Here is one you can build that costs a lot less and goes faster!http://www.rqriley.com/chopper-et.htm

THIS IS NOT ECO FRIENDLY

Just because no emissions are generated in your immediate vicinity does not mean you're "saving the environment." Where do you think the electricity to recharge the bike comes from? It comes from someone a few miles down the road burning coal or oil and releasing the byproducts into the atmosphere and killing all the birds and bunnies and flowers and shit. Think people, think! This isn't even "tree hugging" this is just eco-masturbation.

AWESOME IDEA! WAY PAST ITS TIME!
Everyone should own one of these, make the electric dune buggy/golf cart and thats all i will buy 4 EVA!! I want one when they come out!!!!!!111

Yup, that electricity that comes out of the wall outlet to charge this bike comes from nowhere! It's free energy!

Morons ...

This bike might be high priced, look ugly and not have a long range, but it is the future.

We are all limited by our own past. Look beyond it. I encourage everyone to completely redesign new technology. Why would an electric bike like this look a gas powered one? All the parts that a gas powered bike uses limits the design ie: the tank needs to be on top of the engine, the engine needs a gear box that can only be at one spot, etc.

Lets through it all off and completely rethink this technology and design something that looks awesome and is not just a copy of old lame internal combustion engine technology.

Everything is rethinkable!

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/06/lightning_lithi.php

Um...11k for a 1 person vechile that cant make highway speeds. The only people on these things will be yuppie performers at live aid telling us how bad we are for not owning one.

Pretty cool. But it needs better range (250 to 400 miles), and higher speeds (65 to 80 mph should be sufficient top speed for most). Otherwise, it's not really anything more than a glorified moped without pedals.

I have been waiting for years for a hybrid motorcycle. but fully electric powered by a standard outlet. If they get the design from OC Choppers or J. James - maybe I'll pull the 11k out of my wallet. Otherwise - I'll keep saving for the air scooter

http://www.airscooter.com/pages/airscooter_media_files.htm

(congress hasn't cracked down on the legallity of flying "over" stop lights/intersections).

TESLA - the roadster is fast as a ferarri and has reasonable distance. This thing is slow and heavy and expensive. This shows there is a future in electric transport.
Part of the problem with converting the world to electric is the oil companies which own patents on good battery technologies.

ECO-MASTURBATION - This is a load of shit, the power plants are very efficient and where i live anyway most of the power comes from geothermal, wind and hydrodams, no gas there.

The motorbike is too slow and has short distance, even if it were cheap nobody would buy it to replace a motorbike, its really just a big scooter.

To go with this bike, what about a solar panel recharging station?? I could build one for under a grand. When the price on the bike drops, it should be an option!

Cutting edge technology usually comes with a high price tag, the technology here will not become widespread it will die a slow quiet death as the cost will deter its potential buyers. This means sales will not be enough to guarantee its future, no methods to enable production costs to be reduced will occur and it will be consigned to the dustbin as technology too far advanced for its day.
Do what austin-morris did with the mini sell at a slight loss and guarantee further sales, tell shareholders that they are in it for the long haul and not a quickly made profits schedule

Don't know about you guys in the US, but in the UK I wouldn't be seen dead on something like this... I could buy a new Yamaha R6 for the same money... no competition. You'll never tempt people onto bikes like this unless they're priced accordingly i.e. commuter bike money $6000.

is anyone else concerned that it's practically silent when running? seems like a saftey issue to me. it's best to be seen and HEARD for max. saftey on a bike. also, looks like they went halfway on the design. bulk it up a tad more and make it look like a full out motorcycle.

Ebike same range better price

I agree with just about everybody here it's overpriced,underpowered,and has a lame mileage factor.When is it going to be the time that these eco-companies and all realize that we (the consumers)want sexy and powerful.Tesla Motorsports has moved in that direction a little but,I'm sure most people in here dont own a Tesla motor car.Interesting so far I havent seen one eco-car company take up Debbie Harry's Philosophy that "sex sells".

Regarding people's rebuttal about emissions coming from a coal smoke stack. A 100% coal fired plant is a LOT more efficient at providing energy than a small gas engine. It's not true emission free, but a HUGE improvement. Suggest you do your research before you sound like an ass. Also a lot of people here are looking into or already have solar panels, that is all the more better if you do.

Looks hip and cool, but 12K price tag....wow.

I suspect the price is more about to do with the cost of the hi-tech batteries. My guess, as the price of EV-grade batteries comes down, so will the price of this bike. Or the top speed and/or range will increase beyond gains seen by swapping out sprockets. Maybe with swapping out the sprockets one can see 60-65 mph with loss of low end torque.

The motor cost about $1,000 at the most. Thats for a electrical motor similar to the ones used in the Comedy Central R/C "killer bot" destruction contests. 9-15 hp. Thats the "pancake" type and including regen breaking. Few grand on the battery pack, if they are truly leading edge of technology. couple grand on the controller, inverter, electrical throttle etc.

There are alot of homegrown ev rat-bikes companies out there, whose prices are around 6-8 grand. Some are ground up builds like this one, others building off of a rolling frame. One guy (ev bike company) is willing to weld on two side cases and a top case behind the riders and have em prewired (pos. and neg. terminal) to a popular ev-dirt bike. The rider can swap all the batteries for battery power vs. luggage space vs. weight vs. battery technology to suit his riding needs. Also has swappaple front and rear sprockets

Awsome!!

Lithium Phosphate batteries are cutting edge, like they're going to be able to offer them out at the same price as an internal combustion engine!? Idiots! Keep dispalying your ignorance publicly, it's quite entertaining!!

This is the best cut I've seen at a useful e-motorcycle so far, great work!

I ride a virago 250 yamaha. It gets about 80 mpg. I was hopping the electic motorcycles that were coming out would get a bit more range myself.

I am thrilled that this sort of thing could get off the ground. I have the same reservations that several others have noted, (range, top speed, price)

I wonder, is there any worry about freezing temperatures? I live in Canada and dealing with cold is a big deal for any battery technology. Not that I'd ride a bike when I might encounter ice.

I think it is a beautiful design. Clean simple lines and a minimum of bling bling. Reminds me of the street Triumphs of the 50's and 60's. Well done Brammo Motorsports of Oregon.

However, I have to say that the top speed and range are inadequate for the price. If you get it up to 70 MPH tops and a range of 50 to 60 miles and then sell it for $8,000.00, I would buy one. Other wise it is just too insipid and expensive for my wee budget.

Its almost what I need.

DAN 1

Overpriced, underpowered, but definitely a step in the right direction. Someday we will run out of oil, and maybe by that time there will be an electric bike that will do extended freeway travel at a 300 mile range at a price competitive with a 250cc gas bike. Maybe they should team up with Tesla (for the engine and batteries) and Yamaha or Honda and figure out how to mass produce it cheap.

Numerous issues. Can't make everybody happy, all the time, in present time.
Looks-Good to me! Retro Gas in transition. But a bit like a pit bull with a skinny hind end. Add some luggage/battery capability to the back and flush out the aesthetics.
Range/Speed-Low on this starter model. Buy more and it'll rise! And price will come down.
Efficiency-Check their website for some good charts. For those enviromeddlers check your thoughts before you spout. Efficiency gains can be especially significant if you pick up cheap offpeak energy that utilities have little use for but need to continue to generate for baseload vagaries. Google "pluginamerica" for good info.
I say we get a small (well off) group to pose an initiative to this group to contract for 3-5 times their initial introduction edition. This group contracts for better performance, lower price, even better quality. Body models could even be an option with enough volume. Yes! I know this is what investers are for but this "investment group" would be from the consumer side. This could result in best case scenario from all points of view. BUT, needs highly intelligent, somewhat egoless, skilled people. Any candidates out their.
What a joy it would be to buy an excellent, American made product. China, China, China... disemploying americans everywhere..... until their products need fixed.
If you find fault with any of the above don't SLAM it too hard before responding to the thoughts with your hopeful side. Too many REACTIVE folks out there just wanting to hit something. Present your design mods. They might come true!

I don't think it's so bad.
For the first complaint, the distance.. Realistically your commute is to work with this vehicle, as you can fully charge it before you go home. Heck, even if you were going out of town for lunch and some shopping you could have it charged before you leave. Everybody is thinking in the old "gas station" paridigm, like we're talking about a visit somewhere in particular for a fillup. You can get power just about everywhere you are!
As for the price, you might get a cheaper motorcycle by half, but how soon will it be before you spend that again on gas? Maybe they could sell it cheaper, but they are the first.. I wouldn't advise them to.
"I get 80 mpg on my ___" Yeah, but your emissions are about as bad as an SUV for most sport bikes out there. Comparisons of that nature don't make any sence because someone who could overlook that factor is already not the market for this vehicle.
The biggest change I would like to see is in it's speed. These days you don't need to go very far at all to need the freeway...

If this isn't the ugliest bike I've ever seen it's in the top five, overpriced, no cost/benefit rationale, pitiful range and speed, gas powered bikes are still way more efficient (not counting true sportbikes) a 250cc bike can get as much as 100 mpg, it does "NOT" create anywhere near the emissions of an SUV as some suggest (250cc is a lot smaller than say 7 liters of SUV-8, it's a simple matter of volume mass 1/28th) a 250cc bike usually has a 300 mile or so range, so this electric simply can't realisticly compete not to say we should not head in this direction, power can come from many sources, solar, wind, chemical, air compression, and what about the good o'l water wheel???

I say kudos to anyone trying different technologies but this bike at this price with no true benefits is a bad idea, this is a prototype, not a marketable version (maybe Bono will buy one) have you seen the electric dragbike? lots of power there, with the correct gears and streeable frame it might be a doable concept, Oh and electric motor vehicles preceed gas vehicles, this is not new tech, it is underdeveloped tech (thanks to big oil and politics)

Ugliest thing i have ever seen!
other than that ... Awesome!
If it weren't so damn UGLY i would buy one so fast!

my 1971 honda cb 175 gets about 130mpg , ive had it up to about 75mph and It has a range time of about 2 hours.

this electro bike just cant compete

also $12,000 vs the $800 i paid for my honda

I've heard alot of complaints about how important it is for a rode bike to make a ton of noise. How many "loud pipe" motorcycle riders have been run over because ....they.... could'nt hear whatever cement truck was getting ready to turn them into the next mornings pavement spot. Is it really everyone else's responsability to hear us?

I think that this is a great ideal. But here are my first impressions.

First the execution is wrong. Its taking to long to get it to market. Also they failed to mention the life expectancy of the batteries, and batteries also have their own "environmental issues" for recycling and from the production.

Second, the price is outrageous. $12 - 15,000.00 and it is made with far fewer parts and assembly steps compared to gasoline motorcycles, the carbon fiber should come out after the standard model. The Size of bike would compare to a 125-250 cc motorcycle, many are made for $2500 to 3000.00. The price must be realistic to be successful, and affordable for the masses. It is possible, Enertia just needs to be less greedy. That being said the price needs to be cut down to about $5000 - 6000.00 for the standard model. I can buy a car for less money. Don't tell me you can't build it for that, or even less, and make a reasonable profit.

Third the frame design needs some minor changes that would permit a passenger, some points to mount additional accessories (bags, windscreen), and 2 or 3 additional batteries on the bike. This could permit an increased range of double or triple the current 45 miles, and comparable to current bikes.

Forth, the side panels, tail and simulated fuel tank should be covered in solar cells. Again increasing range and reducing power consumption, not everybody is able to plug in at their employer's office or job site. This also would add to the "green value" and reduce the need to plug in/refuel using fossil fuels in the first place.

Fifth, the company has not contacted me to do product testing. I commute 32 miles one way to my job nearly every day and night by motorcycle already in North Texas and in all kinds of weather. I ride about 12, 000 - 15,000 miles every year. As a consumer, I and any other rider wants to know that it has been tested in all kinds of weather and will hold up for years of riding before we lay out that much money on such new and yet un - test technology. We want to see it, and see it in action before we buy. Contact me to show off and quality test your bike.

Derick Trammell

LOVE the idea but no one will buy a $12,000 motorcycle that maxes out at 50 mph... its not reasonable! You can buy a scooter for half that price new that out-performs this "motorcycle". Why can't it be sold for less? Also take off those awful covers they are terrible - the "bare bones" designed electric bikes I've seen look pretty good!

i prefer the designs modifiying exisiting bike chassis. like a Derbi GPR. even though is is a small bike frame it looks and feels like a "real" motorcycle. Besides the components are equivilant or better performance.

http://www.maxdon.com./gpr.html

unfortunately they don't sell them, they are just using it for r&d.

NOISE: the comments about noise are a legitimate concern. anyone who thinks otherwise isn't an experienced enough rider to have had close calls from auto drivers not paying attention. the electric motors do make a noise when moving not that loud but noticiable. At a standstill they can be dangerous as well though because a high torque motor creates a missle of bike that someone doesn't know is on and accidently rolls the throttle.

i think the body is way ugly, they should take a couple of tips from the CONFEDERATE MOTORCYCLE CO. and that bike would be attractive half naked! its a if i had the money id do it...its a good start.

way to much money someone just trying to get rich.what a joke thats to bad its a good idea.must be the batterys that are so high.keep on burning that old gas.thay will go down some day i hope.

Terrible price, Nice looks, real price should be maximum around 4000 dollars. It's got to compete capital prices alongside the ICE competition. Head to head. I like I can plug it in but it does need longer range (ideally 70 miles, so that I can make it to the beach, plug in, and come home again in the evening)...

This product seems more like a slap in the face than a feasable alternative to a gas engine. Too slow, too short of range, too expensive.

To me, $11,999 in solar panels would be much better for the environment and much more rewarding; emotionally, environmentally, and financially.

Two out of three ain't bad.

The range and speed are perfect for my commute. I mostly commute by motorcycle (anywhere between this year of about 10,000 miles, to a couple years ago where I had over 20,000 miles), though lately by bicycle. If I cut through town and skip the freeway, I never have to go above 50 MPH and will only have about a 30 mile round trip. Perfect. Now the price kills it.

Normally I do the commute on a motorcycle, currently a 1984 Nighthawk SC (great old bike) but have done the commute on a Virago 535, KTM 400 RXC, Honda CBR 1000RR, and Honda Shadow Aero. The commute by freeway is about 35 miles round trip. The most expensive bike in the list was my 1000RR, fantastic bike that got 40-45 MPG, reliable as a rock, I could go for hundreds of miles on a tank of gas, and go for several tank fulls before needing to stop for the night. Obviously this electric bike doesn't need to do all that right now, but my 1000RR did that for the same price ($11,000 OTD).

As far as looks, they don't bother me much. I don't expect a break through vehicle to look like everything else. Lots of the old electric cars looked stupid, and now we have the Tesla. I am sure in the near future we will have production electric sport bikes too. Personally, that sounds like fun. All that torque available doing a sprint race at the track, too cool (I race with the CMRRA). Of course someone mentioned that some thing can't change with a liquid fuel bike, like the fuel tank location. Obviously someone who isn't up to date with bikes as sport bikes don't have the fuel up there in that tank looking thing, that is the air intake under there. The fuel is farther back and lower. Other bikes like the Yamaha V-Max and BMW F650 do the same thing. It lowers the center of gravity.

Is that a 21"/19" wheel combo, why did they do that? Why not just go with 16's that have really cheap tire options skipping the obvious 17" with even more options. The 17" option leaves open the idea of customization. People can swap in different wheels with less effort.

The outlet is a novelty idea. Imagine you have the bike plugged in outside at work, then it rains and shorts out the cable. Fine because the cable is protected and nothing is damaged, but now you get off work to a bike that doesn't make it home because the battery didn't fully charge.

The front brake does NOT look adequate. Really, that looks like a down hill mountain bike brake. Fine if you are doing 30 MPH downhill on a 20 pound bike, not doing 45 MPH on a 300 pound bike. Something like the disc on a Honda RS125 would be nice. Seriously, my YSR has a better looking brake.

The seat looks similar to what I had on my KTM (dirt bike). Definitely only good for about 45 miles :)

Chain drive? Why not a belt? Less weight, less maintenance, long life, less noise (the only sound you are going to hear is the chain), LESS WEIGHT. I have had two bikes with belt drive now and the only thing better is shaft drive. Of course the belt drive was on crap bikes (Buell), one of the few things that was reliable on my X1...

The USD forks seem like a waste of money. They could just choose something cheap off the rack, something bottom of the line. The R6 didn't get USD's until what, 2002 or so. Stand shocks perform fine and would save money. That also looks like DLC, which is another waste of money. Yet with all the bling on the front end, the swing arm looks simple and cheap.

The potential is there, but like the broken record, the price needs to come down first. For now, I think I will take advantage of the wonderful San Diego weather and bounce between my Nighthawk and my bicycle. Don't forget, we have the trolley which cuts my bicycle ride in half!

Off topic, the sound. Loud pipes save lives is bull. If you truly believe that, I feel sorry for you. The next time you are going down the freeway and hear a loud bike coming, consider just how loud and annoying it is, and how it is already in your kill zone. That means by the time you can hear it, it is already next to you. No point in having a loud bike to be heard if you have to go through the kill zone before the sound is noticed. But you also get the joy of pissing off your neighbors and attracting attention to yourself. I have had both loud bikes; my Buell X1 had a Vance and Hines header and was loud enough to be heard from a couple miles away, the KTM was louder. Yet even with those loud bikes they didn't keep my out of any more trouble then my stock 1000RR or stock Nighthawk. At least with the 1000RR I had 140 HP at my disposal and was able to use up more of it then others without getting caught :)

yamaha stepping up:
http://www.gizmag.com/go/4686/picture/16676/

Overpriced and ugly.

They should have taken a bike that's already in production and swapped in electric guts. You would of course have to figure out how to do it but that's what engineers are for! The upside is you're starting off with an affordable, mass-produced frame and a design that you ALREADY KNOW PEOPLE LIKE. Given the choice between the same bike in gas or electric a lot of people will choose electric.

This bike is overpriced because they spent too much money coming up with a design when they could have taken a major shortcut. If electric is going to sell in vehicles, manufacturers need to show that it doesn't have to look any different!

The bike is esthetically pleasing.

But $15K? $11k? 45 mile range?

The price needs to drop below $3,000.

As for being eco-friendly, that very much depends on how the electricity used to charge the bike is generated.

Electric vehicles are part of the solution, if we produce our electricity using renewable, ecologically friendly processes.

Hey everyone... relax on the price already.

These are BOUTIQUE items in 2008. In 2015
bikes that have twice the range, twice the
torque, and double the top speed will sell for
half as much. Just wait. It's happening.
These guys deserve to be congratulated, not
denigrated by people who have never had the
courage or perseverance to invent, develop,
and market a new product.

You have to start somewhere, and they
have to recover their development costs while
they can.

When the likes of Honda, Yamaha, etc get into
the game it will get real interesting real fast.

As others have said earlier - compare a Harley
to a Japanese bike. You get old frame technology,
old engine technology, old transmission technology,
old electrical technology, half the performance,
twice the weight, yet it sells for double or 4x.
Yet when people talk about Harleys the overriding
topic is not how overpriced they are - more than
50 years after they started production.

Here's some ideas that will make this totally work!
The major problems with electric rigs are range, top speed and weight to power ratios.
So; range can be increased with a small generator, automaticaly triggered at say 1/2 storage capacity
makeing the bike a "hybrid".Top speed can be improved with an overdrive set-up, taking advantage of the elecric motor's inherent torque and finally, I believe that the ultra-thin cell lithium batteries in the E-car (Subject of the DVD "Who Killed the Electric Car" ) may now be obtainable once the patent owner Arco can no longer hold on to the design to keep it off the market. Patents lose their longevity if the owners don't act on them so this could be soon.
For the purists who think that the generator idea would miss the whole point, how about a roll- up solar panel to charge your ride while your at work for 8 hours or so? Recharging at each end of your commute means you can get away with less range and therefore smaller and more quickly charged batteries which in turn means less weight.
I still think that the on board generator is viable. The motor required for it would be far smaller than the gas engine needed to produce highway speed and would yeild a far more efficient use of fuel.
Also, remember that this generator need not use carbon-based fuel. Ethanol or bio-deisel or ? can be your base power source!
At any rate, I totally agree that plugging into a coal or natural gas fired electric grid screws the whole concept of a Green vehicle before you even use it.
I am presently planning an electric touring motorcycle, based on an older Honda Goldwing and incorporating the shaft drive for simplicity and
gear reduction. Some of the fore mentioned ideas will be used as there's nothing like an ugly fact to kill a beutiful theory and I want this thing to work in the "real" world. Any ideas on the subject would be greatly appreciated.
GO GREEN!

Tim.

Friend has me thinking something simular.

10 hp yanmar or simular with shaft facing aft.
10-15hp Electric AC motor also facing aft
CVT between the two
Honda shaft drive.

Cruise at 55 on diesel
get to speed or cruise faster on diesel/electric
Recharge Generate power while crusing on diesel only and on braking

Before you go saying a product is over priced it would be a very good idea to find out what the manufacture cost are involved in the making a product. Try pricing out a battery pack that size and chemistry(xxxx$). Keep in mind that when you buy any electric vehicle you are buying the equivalent to enough gas to travel up to 100,000Miles ( approximate life expectancy o battery on many electric vehicles ) or at 80 mpg 1250 gallons of gas! with most electric vehicle the cost of the battery greatly out wights the cost of electricity that is put in to the battery depending on local utility costs. For example it looks like this bike is using 6 u1-12xp or similar batteries ( based on what i cam make out form the pictures of the batteries ). From valence.com the specs of these batteries are 12.8v 40ah. This puts the on board batty capacity some were around 76.2V@ 3.1kwh. If we allow for 50% efficiency for the charge that would make for approx 4.6kwh from the wall or 0.46$ to travel 45 miles ( the stated range per charge @ 25mhp ) if you pay 0.10$/kwh for electricity or about 0.01$/m ( with works out to about the same as they quote on there site allowing for differences in the local utility for the electricity form the grid

After all that , would like to see more range , and the battery / price of the bike come. Not sure with this case if it would work out cheaper than gas over the life of the battery but even with a very low efficiency would make for a very green transport if you charge it with wind / solar / hydro. would probably still be cleaner even running coal now that they are looking in to clean coal power plant and carbon capture .

Any one seen the German "E-Rocket" ?

come on i love this but the price just put that down and ill buy

it looks good and its only one thing i ask

looks like baby bike

Over a year and half, and this bike still has not made it to the streets. Nor has the company offered me an oppurtunity to test it and evaluate the bike. I did get a replay as to the price, seems they belive people want to spend money on green, and not realy save money. No, if your an investor, SELL. This is a company in name only and I doubt they'll ever get it to the real world market. Too bad, it was a good ideal.

This bike is way too expensive -- someone can easily go out and for $8k buy an X Rider - http://www.xgpinc.com/products/xrider.php - which goes 65mph and over 100 miles per charge....