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Honda and Climate Energy Team Up with Freewatt

by Christine Lepisto, Berlin on 04. 8.07
Science & Technology (alternative energy)

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This week Climate Energy and Honda announced that they will bring a micro-CHP (Combined Heat and Power) system to the American market, under the trade name Freewatt(TM). Sales of the Honda-powered generator with warm-air heating system have begun in the Northeastern states, where sales are boosted by the relatively cool climate and legislation promoting net-metering, which allows owners of alternative energy systems to recover costs by feeding electricity back into the networks. Climate Energy promises to continue growth in the American market, adding a hot-water boiler system and other configurations to the product palette. Judging by unexpectedly high reader response to the recent article on the Senertec Dachs, the market is ripe for this technology.

The Freewatt is powered by Honda's GE160EV natural gas engine and produces 3.26 kilowatts of heat and 1.2 kilowatts of electricity. Although substantially less than is generated by the Senertec Dachs, the Freewatt is appropriately sized for the needs or the average single home. Similar systems have sold over 45,000 units in Japan since their introduction in 2003. The low noise levels of the Honda generator, which is compared to a refrigerator, is a strong selling point for the Freewatt. The price for Freewatt micro-CHP with warm-air heater is approximatley $13,000 installed, depending upon the complexity of the installation.

The introductory model requires electricity for start-up and operation, so it is not the solution for off-gridders or people looking for the security of generating their own heat and power in a grid crash. However, Climate Energy is developing a system which will provide up to 1.8 kilowatts of power during a black-out. No hint of plans for alternative-fuel options such as wood pellets or vegetable oils yet though.

Via ::Green Car Congress

Comments (19)

I would recommend every TreeHugger visitor (and the TH staff) to read - or re-read- "PLAN B2.0" by Lester Brown.

He aptly describes that with a good amount of certainty all energy sources mentioned in the above article to be unsustainable. Natural Gas peaking just as oil, all crop sources are in danger by the falling water table and "freak weather", etc. -- the staggering list goes on and on.

The only energy sources we must invest in are the ones that burn, refine or extract stuff;
Wind, Solar, Tidal, Geothermal - period.

Why we as a highly educated civilization must refuse the energy which is freely available, escapes me completely.
Our actions would only be logical if mankind had a subconscious desire to ring in those pesky "end times" the bible is talking about ......

jump to top RideTheFuture says:

Micro-CHP provides a real altnerative for average homeowners to make an enviromental difference.
Yes, it does operate on natural gas fuel, but the gain in efficiency over the traditional ways we use fuel to provide heat and electric power to our homes is huge. Super efficiency is a very practical next step on the way to a fully renewable economy. We shouldn't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. A hard nosed assessment of cost and benefits will show micro-CHP can provide about 80% of the environmental benefits of a total renewable energy system, but at less than 20% the cost increment. By the way, the incremental cost of our system over a traditional natural gas heating system is rather modest, providing a good and real payback in electric power savings while providing enhanced homeowner energy security.

Eric Guyer
CEO Climate Energy, LLC.

jump to top Eric Guyer says:

In response to Ms. Lepisto's article on the Climate Energy freewatt system, the $13,000 price that she mentioned does include installation. Obviously, the price would vary depending upon the installer and the difficulty involved in any particular installation. Thanks for the great article.
Thomas reed Manager, Climate Energy LLC

--ed. note:---
The article has been corrected to note that the price includes installation. Thank you to Climate Energy for the information.

jump to top Thomas Reed says:

FreeWatt can help GlobalWarming.

jump to top freewatt says:

Yes, it does operate on natural gas fuel, but the gain in efficiency over the traditional ways we use fuel to provide heat and electric power to our homes is huge.

But this sort of begs the question, doesn't it? What happens when natural gas becomes 10 or 100 or 1000 times as expensive as it is now? When the average North American can only obtain natural gas by tanker from Asia or Europe? Shouldn't new installations focus on technologies that don't expose the consumer to market volatility?

As far as I understand it, natural gas production is subject to a steeper dive after peak than petroleum. So these problems will come up soonish. Since the manufacturer isn't providing anyone with any sort of price guarantees for fuel, this is less an environmental problem and more a question of pure economics in my book.

jump to top mdpdb [TypeKey Profile Page] says:

Interesting, and almost cost-effective too.

A machine like this could save you about 3 cents an hour if you need heat most of the year, in that its a 1.2 kW machine, gas turbine generators are only 50% efficient, and electricity costs about 6 cents an hour (where I am at least).

Over 20 years, a machine like this would save you just over $5000, so economically it's not a great deal yet. Maybe if gas and energy prices go up to where they should be, tech like this will become a good deal.

jump to top LeDopore says:

Nice......

I've been keeping an eye on this. I haven't seen any specs as to energy usage. My current boiler, which is in need of replacement very soon, runs for about 2-3 hours twice a day in the dead of winter. So if the run time were the same on the freewatt it would produce 4.8 to 7.2 kwh per day or 20% of my usage.

Since the gas meter needs to turn in order to produce electric is it actually going to be economically feasable running it for 12 or 24 hours to produce enough electric to make a dent in my daily usage?

jump to top Ric says:

It may not be perfect but it surely beats my Oil Burner every way possible.

So how does the freewatt system stack up against AISIN'S 6.0kw GAS ENGINE COGENERATION?

jump to top PaulCHP says:

What's the oil consumption like over the life of the unit? How frequently does the oil need to be changed? How do the emissions compare to a standard NG heating system?

As for another user's comment "The only energy sources we must invest in are the ones that burn, refine or extract stuff; Wind, Solar, Tidal, Geothermal - period." - Doesn't the slowing of the water currents contribute to global weather instability?

jump to top CPC says:

It looks to me to be a boiler attached to a generator. When it works slows down the electric meter by 1.2 kW???

Money wise worthless. Am I missing something? probably more expensive in the long run given the amount of oil or gas needed to heat the water AND run the generator too!!!

Gimmick, like the GE fluorescent and mercury laden light bulbs
Adam

jump to top Adam Thermos says:

I wish that I had known about this new Climate Energy earlier. Would love to have one of these to save on energy and to gain electricity at the same time. I just purchased a new Lennox furnace and air conditioner three months again.

jump to top wdlove says:

With regard to some of the comments made above I would lilke to state:

1) Oil consumption is nill. No oil needs to be added between oil changes and oil changes are needed only about every 2 years of normal operation. This is equvilent to 300,000 miles in an auto....quite amazing.

2) It is disappointing to see individuals suggest the the freewatt system is a fade or a hoax. In reality it is product of the diligent and honest efforts of some of world's best enginering and manufacturing talents to produce a product that is meaningful advance of the current state of the art of home energy technology. It is not perfect. We would like it to be perfect. But we at Climate Enegy deal with realities of today's energy situation. In reality, often perfect is the enemy good. Of course, at Climate Energy we are open to suggestions from anyone who has constructive alternative ideas that are based in technological and business realities of today.

3) Our list of happy "Green" homeowners who have purchased freewatt grows everyday. They have purchased freewatt becuase its a smart thing to do and the vast majority of energy and enviromental experts see micro-CHP as an important part of our energy conservation future.

Eric Guyer
CEO, Climate Energy

jump to top Eric Guyer says:

Why can't I buy the pwoer unit as a stand-alone device to integrate into my existing home teating plant?

I have a hydro air system with a large hotwater storage capacity for a future solar collector implemenation.

By forcing people to by your warm air furnace you limit the apeal of the device.

Can I just buy a GE160EV?

jump to top Mike says:

My old boiler died in October and I now have a freewatt ready boiler in my basement saving me money as I wait for the freewatt + generator which will give me stand-by power when the grid fails on us as it does often.

My calculations show that the difference in cost between this package and a hi effenciency, like a german Budarus, I will pay back my costs in less than 5 years, and will save me about $1,500/year from that time on at today's rates.. currently at $.20/kwH. That's the economics.

Saving the Planet... I can also appreciate now that the freewatt will cut my carbon foot print by 67%, not totally green like PV but it sure is a good start. Think of the impact if everyone in my power system did a freewatt!

jump to top Alex in Massachusetts says:

13K for an installed unitl. My 20yo boils burns $3,600 in fuel a year and that's at these prices). My Electicity bill is something like $2,400 per years.

so for a 5 year payback will my heating/electical drop to about $2,500 per year. Are the saving that dramatic?

thanks.

jump to top joe says:

Has anyone owned one of these long enough to comment on reliablitiy and repair issues?

jump to top Poly R says:

I can't understand some peoples mentality regarding about not wanting to drill for natural gas on Alaska's north slope. We all want cheap energy and obviously if we continue to block all exploration and development we will have to continue to send our money overseas to the majority of people who want to hold us hostage to outrages high rates. The majority of them are not our friends and use our money we pay for energy to fund terrorists.
I am probably one of the most "green" Republican conservative persons in Anchorage. I own two hybrid cars (Prius and Highlander). I think the idea of a small co-generation plant which will run off NG a great idea.
By the way I have lived and worked on the North Slope and the last time I checked there arn't any trees there to hug.
If any one wants to do a "Timothy Treadwell" there are pleanty of hungry bears up there that would be glad to see you though.
Jim
Jim

jump to top James Flood says:

I can only hope that those of you grasping for your doomsday slant on every new environmentally friendlier product do not live in America.
I’m a tree hugger at heart, engineer by trade and realist by instinct. Here’s a product that could easily change the face of efficient power production in America and I read comments like “Money wise worthless” and “what happens when natural gas becomes 10 or 100 or 1000 times as expensive”.
Let’s say this became a nationwide standard for America, not this product, but something like it, we have what, 100,000,000 homes? Do the math. Even if only those who currently use natural gas would make the conversion we’re looking at a huge payback. I HATE hearing childish comments from people living in tiny countries where they can boast about how small they are and how small their carbon footprint is. Welcome to the industrial age where 300 Million or more people need to live and breathe. In America we commute in 8mpg Hummers and heat our homes with 70% efficient furnaces. We’re willing to spend $60K on inefficient transportation. Why not spend $13K and see a return, even 3 cents an hour?
The minute anyone mentions the word “EFFICIENCY” there’s a line of armchair economists arguing that it’s not the perfect solution. If you have a better solution or can make something more efficient, streamlined or environmentally friendly, bring it on. Perfection comes one stroke at a time.

jump to top Mike says:

I like the cogen technology. I like the high efficency gas boiler and hot water capabilities. The cogen electric power is just icing on the cake. I would rather gamble with future north american natural gas production rather than be addicted to foreign oil generated fuel oil.

Does the free watt system qualify for any existing state or federal incentives?

jump to top Tony says:

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